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[–] terraborra@lemmy.nz 157 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The grilling exposed Trump’s total cluelessness with regard to his own economic policy, and led Trump to attack Micklethwait as biased.

Yes the notably socialist empire of Bloomberg, used by communist stock traders around the world, is biased against the totally rational and very cool Trump economic “plan”.

Maybe adopting failed economic policies from the 1920s (and older) isn’t a winning formula?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 month ago

I love this video so much. The interviewer asks Shapiro to defend his stances and Shapiro responds by calling the interviewer a liberal.

"A Georgia law you support would have women who had a miscarriage face trail for potentialy 30 years in jail. Isn't that a bit harsh?"

"Oh, sorry, I didn't know you were A LIBERAL!"

[–] LotzaSpaghetti@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Knowing Neil’s background and then watching this video gives one truly one of the most delicious viewings of all time.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I watched it without and it was still interesting. What's Neil's background? Seemed like a super nice old guy.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe Andrew Neil himself is rather conservative. So Shapiro accusing him of being a liberal is... even more absurd.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

I liked the part where he said that theres not much money in broadcast news in Britain, unlike in the states. Sort of framed the perspectives in a great way.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 34 points 1 month ago (7 children)

That's the one group I don't understand, the finance guys, business owners, stock analysts, etc. How can they possibly be on team Trump? You want some certainty in the market, not some dementia patient steering the wheel with Christian Nationalists like Stephen Miller whispering directions in his ear.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's the one group I don't understand, the finance guys, business owners, stock analysts, etc. How can they possibly be on team Trump?

Tax cuts for the rich

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Lot of fucking good that's going to do them when nobody can afford to buy their shit

Who are you going to sell to? Because it ain't me, and it ain't 99% of the rest of the American people. So if these rich fucks want to chase their infinite paycheck, they're going to need some revenue.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ahh but for one glorious quarter, profits will be through the roof. The collapse of democracy afterwards will be an unfortunate market adjustment

[–] DekesEnormous@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Ah the ol’ pump-and-dump-a-roo

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Because they don’t actually want to own a company. They want to own a kingdom

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

That is the nature of greed. There is no thought of the future or consequence.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“What does The Wall Street Journal know? They’ve been wrong about everything, and so have you by the way, you’ve been wrong,” Trump replied, crossing his arms and curling into his seat.

Ah, yes, the well known unreputable, woke, liberal extremist publication, the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For some of the ultra-wealthy (Theil, Altman, Andreessen, Eric Schmidt, OpenAI board, etc), a type of accelerationism seems to be in-vogue (e/acc publicly, and probably accelerationist thoughts like The Dark Enlightenment privately). I think some ultra-wealthy are just trying to hedge their bets (Zuckerberg, and news corporations come to mind), because if Trump does win he'll definitely try to use his power to harm companies he doesn't like. I think others, such as Musk, want to be Russian-style oligarchs. I guess all this is kinda related; accelerate into some sort of collapse or chaos, use their positions to maneuver into greater power and become oligarchs or create corporate-city-states, or whatever stupid shit they believe in.

I think finance workers are about as split between the parties as the rest of the population; probably more socially liberal. Small bussiness owners are some of the most ignorant and authoritarian people I've encountered.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Also you’ve gotta look at other similar situations in history. Capitalism isn’t doing so great at the moment and that drives people to socialism or barbarism. To the rich who’d spent a long time fighting for capitalism to be unrestrained its an easier leap to fascism than to restraining capitalism.

The harsh truth these people don’t want to accept is their best outcome involves huge taxes on them to fund a revamped new deal alongside strong unions that will force them to pay labor fairly. They’ll still be rich but it’s unlikely they’ll be “quick jaunt to orbit” rich.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago

He creates turmoil and doubt, which is fertile ground for scams and cons.

[–] terraborra@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 month ago

Cocaine’s a hell of a drug.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of people with a high degree of expertise in one area are deficient in other areas, but wrongly assume they are geniuses in all areas.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

I just assume I'm a dipshit across the board so I can be pleasantly surprised any time I do something competently

The richer you are, the more likely you vote republican.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, they are probably biased against him, but that's just because his plan is fucking trash and even those who would benefit see the long term problems with turnip's plan to kick off a deflationary spiral.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He's truly a man of the people. Turns out the people of America are dumb.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 93 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know ....

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks for the opening. "Morons!"

[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Possibly the best line of dialog ever spoken from a movie screen.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I don't know who upvotes you, but let me remind you that the Trumpers are the minority in America. Always have, always will.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes! We also have dumb people who don't support Trump.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And a whole other group of dumb people who also support nothing and do absolutely nothing to encourage or support anything and just stand back and watch the world burn.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These people have put political signs everywhere around here that say “Vote Cupcakes” or “Vote Cookies for president”

They think it’s all a joke

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Bro literary got over 45% of votes.

Edit: And is likely to again

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

How very clever of them.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 77 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trump responded by sighing and ranting about Virginia’s voter rolls. “The question is about Google, President Trump,” Micklethwait replied. Trump then went on a spiel about how Google is unfair to him and doesn’t show users any positive stories about him.

There are no positive articles about him that aren't from horribly biased sources.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A journalist had to answer a question from the public on the subject in a Canadian special on US elections and his answer was "Look, I'm a journalist, I report facts and if you believe I'm biased because all the news coming from the republican side are bad news I would tell you I'm not the one who chose the candidate that generates these bad news, my job is just to report them, nothing else."

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

One time Google's snippet for Republican described Nazis. This enraged the Republicans and Google manually changed it. But it was auto generated from stuff the GOP was really saying, and still are.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

LOL that photo

he's such a fucking whiny baby

[–] lambchop@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looks like a toddler refusing to put on his shoes.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

why put on your shoes when you can get some other cunt to do it for you. just tell them you'll pay them LOL

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

"They're eating the dogs. And can we get some music?"

/dances to opera

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

The Orange Shit Stain and his body language says it all. Kudos to the journalist for sticking to the subject and keeping the POS in line.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hate the guy, It scares me shitless that he may be elected, but we must admit that creating the "weave" thing to sell his mental decline as a brilliant oratorial strategy is a genius marketing move. The problem is that he is selling exploding Ford Pintos as the safest car in the world.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey now the Pinto wasnt that bad, so long as you replace the fuel tank it was a downright good car. He is selling the cybertruck an irredeemable pile of shit that is barely worth the cost of scrapping it.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago

My point still stands, it was largely an issue restricted to the stock fuel tank. They also like to rust out so theres that issue as well. Shitty fuel tank good car.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is there a video? I like to watch him get progressively unstable.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you can stomach it

https://youtu.be/cGgxTFYF844

I don't need further proof to know he's an idiot

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm gonna try to watch this later. I give myself 3 minutes before I give up. Thanks for sharing the link.

Update: I made it about 20 minutes into the "interview" and had to stop. The gish gallop is hard with Trump and there's no way I could listen to it for a full hour.

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