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A video encouraging women to vote independently for Kamala Harris sparked outrage among conservative men, who called it divisive and “amoral.” The video highlights the gender gap that has widened between Harris and Trump, with recent polls showing notable leads by Harris among women and Trump among men.

Critics like Charlie Kirk labeled it “nauseating,” criticizing the wife for lying to “her sweet husband who probably works his tail off to make sure that she can go and have a nice life and provides for the family.”

Supporters argue it reflects real tensions around women’s autonomy, especially in conservative households.

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I thought voting is done in secret.. if they rage about that simple topic, you gotta know who not to vote

[–] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 266 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“If your husband is mad at this ad, then this ad was made for you.”

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm mad that it's 2024 and this ad needs to exist

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm mad it's 2024 and we need to check notes

Make sure women don't have rights stripped away

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[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm willing to take bets that sometime in the Future there will be a call from Republicans for a new law that allows husbands to see how their wives have voted.

To protect Family values.... And to stop disharmony in the marriage.....

And, of course, to prevent voter fraud.......

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If the Conservatives had their way, women would not be allowed to vote at all. Unfortunately, that still seems to be one of their goals. I mean, Trump and his henchmen have already made sure that women are no longer allowed to control their own bodies, which I have to admit I thought was impossible in a Western country. What makes you think they're going to leave it at taking away women's right to a secret ballot? These people want to reverse advances in civilization like women's right to vote all together. That's what conservative means to them: back to the Middle Ages. In this sense, they are little different from other religious extremists such as the Taliban. Their goals might be a little different but their means are pretty much the same.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

If conservatives had their way, men would vote on behalf of their wives and unmarried adult daughters.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

They'll pass laws that will give men an extra vote for each child they have (because they are "more invested in the future") and while we're at it let's allow them to vote for the entire family to cut down on voting lines.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 235 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That's so weird that the nazi husbands who would give their wife a black eye for voting for kamala would fly into a rage about something.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 94 points 3 days ago

Waiting for the article from the NYT about how this is bad for Harris' polling with police officers.

It's bonkers that the people who can't stfu about FREEDOMS are the ones who want to strip everyone else's away

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

As we always said when the Volunteers lost to Alabama: "Lot of women are going to be falling down stairs tonight."

It wasn't funny then either :(

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[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago

So it is "amoral" to tell women that they can make their own decisions. Thanks for clearing that up, Newt.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good lord they're really telling on themselves with this one aren't they?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

How dare you encourage my wife to be an independent person and have her own thoughts!

  • conservative men
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I can't imagine (as a unmarried guy) living in a marriage where my wife would be afraid to tell me who she voted for. Even if she votes Trump, she's my spouse, and that comes way before that. She should chew me out if I make her feel afraid.

...It makes me feel shame for the culture some men are raised in.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

I don't know. If my wife voted for Trump she knows I'd leave her, so I can imagine she wouldn't tell me if she did. Not to mention she'd have to have been lying about her entire personality the whole time we knew eachother XD.

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[–] flicker@lemmy.world 125 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Critics like Charlie Kirk labeled it “nauseating,” criticizing the wife for lying to “her sweet husband who probably works his tail off to make sure that she can go and have a nice life and provides for the family.”

These idiots really miss the fact that most women can, and, in fact, must work. This idea of a "sweet" husband who works to provide for his family is so outdated it's absurd.

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That does still apply to rich people, which is why I suspect so many of these idiots still think this way. Surely everyone has the means THEY have!

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[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 99 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What about the husband vote cancelling out the wives vote?

Both humans have agency. If you are going to frame the issue as treachery, then the husband shouldn't vote against his wife. Or, is the husband owed two votes and the wife none?

Fuck that.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or, is the husband owed two votes and the wife none?

To conservatives it's this one.

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[–] Un4@lemm.ee 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They believe if you do not earn money or earn insignificant amount then you do not deserve to vote or have a say in politics. You can estimate their thoughts and actions based on this simple starting point.

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 142 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., joined the criticism Thursday, telling Fox News that Democrats are telling wives to lie to their husbands: “What kind of a totally amoral, corrupt, sick system have the Democrats developed?”

Ah yes, the guy who has cheated on multiple wives is talking about amorality and corruption.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's not the only conservative paragon of virtue that's having a hissy-fit over it either:

Fox News host Jesse Watters said on the air last week that if his wife did the same as the women in the ad, it would violate “the sanctity of our marriage.”

“If I found out Emma was going into the voting booth and pulling the lever for Harris, that’s the same thing as having an affair,” Watters said, a remark that prompted many online to call him out for his marital affair, which he admitted to in 2018.

[–] neoman4426@fedia.io 14 points 3 days ago

Not just an affair, an affair with his current wife he was calling out. Who he started the affair by being a massive stalker and letting air out of her tires so she'd ask him for a ride.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 48 points 3 days ago

it's not "cheating" if the husband does it. it's "the wife is being frigid and insufferable and i had no choice but to fuck whoever else"

from the party of "it's not rape if he's your husband"

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I know who my wife is voting for, but even if she voted differently, I would love her the same. It would hurt if she lied about it though, because it would imply a lack of trust.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago

At this course, the US Taleban is about to meet the handmaid's tale...

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 112 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Awww your wife isn't your property?? 😢

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 75 points 3 days ago

The guy who helped create the ad even says

“They took a person’s sanctity of their ballot and turned it into a conversation about men owning the behaviors of the women in their life,” Pagitt said. “And like, well, I didn’t think you were going to make our point for us. We’re very grateful that you did.”

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[–] garretble@lemmy.world 92 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That headline again: "Party of Snowflakes Melt"

In a functioning democracy, a vote should be secret by default, and that should be the social expectation. If you wanna tell people, sure, but not in a way where your actual vote can be proven.

[–] gatorgato@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago

Yes. Yes, rage against this. Feed your anger. How dare they?!?!?! Feed the Streisand effect. Spread this idea. Let it engage you!! Oh, I know. Rant about it to your wife. Tell her all about this evil idea. Tell her what those other independent women are doing. Yeah. Get good and mad /S

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Critics like Charlie Kirk labeled it “nauseating,” criticizing the wife for lying to “her sweet husband who probably works his tail off to make sure that she can go and have a nice life and provides for the family.”

And just why does she have to lie about it to her "sweet" husband?...

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 61 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not hiding when it's supposed to be a secret. A woman voting her own beliefs should be the first step out of that kind of controlling relationship.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is the Bear vs a Strange man all over again and they still don’t get it.

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[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago

Party that repealed Roe v Wade and constantly talks about shooting liberals is now angry that their wives might be afraid of telling them how they vote, more news at 10

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 3 days ago

Wow, who knew the fascist party supporters would be against women having political autonomy.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Next up, they’re going to try and force women into wearing bedsheets cuz, you know, they can’t keep it in their pants when they see a modestly attractive woman go by in normal clothes.

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