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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Immigration is such a horseshit issue. Why are people dumb enough to fall for this shit?

Immigration will be "solved" come January, but not because Trump will actually do anything about it, but he'll just say the problem is solved and then stop talking about it.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 5 points 9 hours ago

Because the Democrats picked it up and used it as an issue as well. Instead of dispelling the myths of "Bigrant Crime," as if that would be a challenge, they took an anti-immigration stance as well. Honestly, Trump had a rare master class attack on the Dems with the whole "they've been in power for four years, why haven't they already done everything," because it called out just how shallow the Dems bending to conservative anti-immigrant policy was. It was almost certainly an accident on his part, especially since his party was the reason Dems couldn't be as hard on immigration as they wanted, but it turned into effective messaging.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

I don’t think those were choices on the exit poll😂

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Thank you, Knee Tits.

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 28 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

You don't win an election just with vibes.

Kamala didn't bring as much substance as what the left electorate was expecting from her, and couldn't differentiate herself from Biden and the current term she is serving under. The whole democratic party went under because all they promise is vibes compared the current economical struggles people are facing.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I was onboard with her but I honestly felt icky every time the Biden administration released a new statement about how good the economy is. How out of touch do you have to be to think the economy is good? Republicans have no intention of fixing that but at least they're smart enough to see that people feel crushed in this economy and pander to it. And apparently that was a much bigger issue than abortion, which shocked me at first but as it settles I see that my fear as a woman pales in comparison to America's fear of a woman and America's struggling financial situation.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

How out of touch do you have to be to think the economy is good?

Liberals measure the health of the economy by Gross Domestic Product (which has been going up), and Consumer Price Index (which includes big-screen TVs). You'd have to dismantle everything they paid to learn in college econ.

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

The truth is the dems are a right wing party now, they've been dragged there by the rethugs.. and people Want to vote for an Actual left wing party, but there literally isnt one in the US.

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 13 points 14 hours ago

The dems were never left wing in international standards. otherwise you would already have had universal health care.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The poison of the "big tent". Move a little over to let people in enough and you are no longer representing anyone in a desperate attempt to represent everyone.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

between this and the enshittification of big tech and gaming, it feels like 2024 has been one big argument in support of gatekeeping.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 55 points 19 hours ago (16 children)

Economy

This is Trump's economy, you idiots. This is the fallout from his incompetence and malice. But heaven forbid voters understand basic principles which rule their lives.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 46 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

i think you give too much credit to Trump. the economy has been rigged against the working class for a long time. it's just getting progressively more brutal which makes people feel increasingly insecure.

an insecure working class elects strongmen who promise simple solutions

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

It's the pattern in American politics that has existed since I was born: Republicans fuck the economy, Democrats do their best to fix it, people blame the Democrats for the bad economy and elect Republicans who fuck it up even more.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 41 points 18 hours ago

Blame the news media. They sane washed Trump.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 112 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

I love how Economy is a high priority, yet they voted for the asshole known being the genius behind several bankruptcies. "The economy isn't doing good, clearly we need someone who can fuck shit up to make it work!"

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago

The American electorate:

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They forgot the most important thing: Lead poisoning

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 36 points 20 hours ago (13 children)

It's simple, and history has borne this out many many times.

In a bad economy, no one cares about your politics if you're the candidate of change. There's a reason why Harris spent two months repeating memes instead of defending Biden's policies, because it's impossible to defend the fact that you had four years to rule and there are more people working 2-3 jobs just to survive.

They knew they needed to appeal to workers. Instead, they spent most of the campaign repeating this meaningless platitude about joy to people who are being worked to death.

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