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Summary

White supremacist Avi Rachlin used racist slurs during a Michigan Senate committee hearing, claiming proposed gun legislation unfairly targets white people while suggesting lawmakers focus on Black communities in Detroit.

Representing the extremist group “Groypers for America,” Rachlin falsely argued the bill was retaliation against white Trump supporters.

His comments, including the use of the N-word, were condemned by lawmakers, with Sen. Jim Runestad calling the remarks inappropriate.

The committee ultimately advanced the bill, which would expand the ban on firearms in Michigan’s Capitol, initially requested after armed protests in 2020.

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 77 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Weird, because historically gun control happens when white people get scared a black man has the same rights as them.

Just ask Dredd Scott v Sanford , or Ronald Reagan.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 61 points 1 month ago

“It is racial because the people who carry in the Capitol are primarily white people“

Because the black ones are accosted and harassed if they're armed? Something I heard a long time ago was that whites fear becoming a minority because they know how minorities are treated. I just find it odd that they use that as a reason to obsessively cling to power instead of trying to make everyone's lives better.

Back in 2020, Democratic lawmakers requested a change to firearm regulations in the Capitol when armed demonstrators and militia members went into the building demanding an end to COVID-19.

Funny how gun laws and gun restrictions are okay when it comes to protecting lawmakers, but not okay when it comes to protecting schoolchildren.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

easiest way to implement gun control, arm black people en masse and make sure to advertise it

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There was an episode of Bojack Horseman titled Thoughts and Prayers in which during a rise in mass gun violence, the Government is debating gun control. It doesn't appear to be going anywhere until (following some sub-plotlines) there's a huge surge in women owning handguns for self-protection and empowerment. The govt then pretty quickly moves to ban all guns.

Quote from the summary: "A senator asks what his constituents are supposed to do, not compliment random women on the street? and says they can't live with that kind of fear." and "Diane then says she can't believe this country hates women more than it loves guns."

10/10 show

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ever heard of the black panthers? The state only allows this kind of thing for pale people.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Republicans tripped over each other to enact gun control when they saw organized and arm black people excersiding their right to bare arms.

It feels like 70% of US laws and agencies were motivated by racism and oppression of minorities.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like all other Western countries the US were built on genocide and slavery, I wouldn't be too keen on arming the oppressed either

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Not excusing it, but very few countries didn't have slavery in their history at one point or another.

It's just some never stopped, like the US.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It wasn’t just that they had guns. It’s that they stood there armed, watching people get arrested, and started reading rights. It’s not enough to have guns, you need to use those guns as an implicit threat while brazenly not only following the law, demanding the cops do so as well

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

happened when the Panthers started showing up armed (legally) to protests.

happened when someone started to threaten congress with their own dirty movie rentals in DC.

It's almost like management won't do anything until you make it their problem.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Start a group of Muslims for Gun Rights and watch bigotry work its magic.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

White person from MI here. I don't want anyone to have easy access to guns, especially white people. And I don't want them to be allowed where peaceful protests happen. Armed protestors are not protesting they are intimidating.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I do wonder if there is some value in like a "protestor defense volunteer". Like a group that their job is just to protect the people in protesting areas, regardless of affiliation or reason. Can't call it a problem if everyone gets defended while exercising their rights, and then protestors don't have a reason to bring guns.

Edit: I guess that would normally just be the police?

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

The police is the arm of the government, so they usually find a bullshit reason to dismiss a protest violently. Unless you are a white christofascist group, then have at it.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, most of the time the protesting groups bring their own armed people. They don't take part in the protests generally though. They stand to the side and watch (at least for leftists, I think the right they're more directly part of it).

Ideally the police is what you're asking for, but I wouldn't put much faith in them.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

White supremacist Avi Rachlin

Avi?

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Short for Avolf.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's just a name. Maybe a fake name... But zionism is a white supremacist ideology.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/1/9/the-zionist-fallacy-of-jewish-supremacy

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Tell the Klan that.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

what a racist goblin.

dude exudes small penis energy.

the legislation should put forward a new bill that actually targets racist gun owners just to prove a point.

sometimes the smallest "chuck" at the bar has the loudest mouth and needs a reality check.

Somebody's gunning for a cabinet appointment

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

His emderpened speech may have come off better if it white, and klan, folk weren't the #1 source of terrorism for two decades.

Is that the majority of gun deaths? No but good luck anyone caring after that talk.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I see... What cabinet position will he now be nominated for?

Undersecretary of CRT

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

A man he is not. Ignorant brat child he is

[–] 01011@monero.town 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's amazing how frequently white supremacists take the ahistorical route to justify their beliefs.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

He's got it the wrong way round, but even NPR acknowledges the racist origins of the second amendment. They needed the guns to put down slave revolts and native attacks

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Because of course it's anti-white.

FFS.