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Luigi Mangione shouts a message to the American people on his way to court:

“This is completely unjust and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience.”

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 342 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Please stay alive, Luigi. Regardless of whether what you did is right or wrong, and whether you actually did it or not, everyone needs you there (including both prosecutors and your defense).

Keep your message consistent, and any correspondence with the courts and police vetted by a lawyer so that it doesn't get misconstrued.

Please have someone you trust by your side 24/7 or a live feed at this point. Please report any detainment conditions that might intentionally drive someone towards self-harm to the public. People everywhere are counting on you.

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 84 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Has a comment ever been so close to an eternally echoed prayer as this?

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 81 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Epstein was killed because he knew things and was still a threat to the rich. Luigi doesn't have anything to say that would hurt the rich anymore. In fact, killing him in prison would be incredibly short sighted by the rich - they need to stop the rest of us from mobilizing in his honor - which killing him out of revenge would not accomplish. The same news sources that tried to make us care about the evil assassin and helpless CEO will now try to character assassinate Luigi and make him a pariah. He can't galvanized a generation if he's a weirdo.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I agree they are already desperately trying to paint him as a bad person, but so far it had the opposite effect. They will probably come up with some definitely not made up "revelations" about him soon.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There was already an article about him playing Among Us, and how he would play as the "assassin".

Sooooo..... They are already trying, even with the dumbest shit.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What he did was right. Yes, much like how Hitler's death would've been sad for Eva Braun had she still been alive, Brian Thompson's death is sad for those who survive him, but the world is a brighter place for it.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 288 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

They don't want him in front of a jury.

Regardless if it's him or not. They cannot afford him to get acquitted.

But they can't martyr him. That will be a death sentence to the US.

This isn't going to end well for anyone. This guy has shown a much darker picture of the US to us that we all know too well.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 150 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

Imho, as painful as it is, avoiding an economic civil war at this point does more harm than good over time. It kicks the can down the road until their side exclusively can use humanoid robots to fight their battles for them, and that just means get in line and die until collapse.

The alternative is even darker, our non-wealthy children being judged by AI as to whether the potential profit/loss of healing them is greater or less than their remaining projected exploitation value to the owners.

And that's just in Healthcare. Our entire economy has become this sociopathic.

This is silent slaughter. No one should confuse quiet with peace. We haven't had peace for a long time.

They don't care if only the top 5% is free on the backs of the 95%, they don't see the bottom 95% as human at all. I don't think society should continue under that bargain. It isn't worth it. No one is free until everyone is.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 108 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is silent slaughter. No one should confuse quiet with peace. We haven’t had peace for a long time.

"True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice." -- MLK Jr.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 86 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Reminder that MLK was silenced because he was getting further into advocating economic equity, a bridge too far.

I think the FBI killed him. It's an objective matter of historical record they tried to blackmail him into committing suicide.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI%E2%80%93King_letter

His family proved in court that the government killed him, but every judge in criminal courts refused to let the case go to trial, so it was only a civil court case. But the judge was convinced by the evidence and found the government guilty and dues were awarded.

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago

This is the same reason the Black Panthers messages have faded into obscurity.

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[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, I have a sneaking suspicion that hes going to commit suicide via 2 gunshots to the back of the head, with every security camera in the facility malfunctioning during it and that every other inmate in the vicinity was coincidentally unconscious.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 36 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

He'll get a jury trial after about 2 years of waiting, locked in a cage

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[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Dude's gonna get epsteined

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[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 149 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're setting him up to be too scared to face trial, so he killed himself. They talked about how much he was shaking since he got approached by police, he's pissing himself apparently. Dude is gunna get killed so he can't talk on the stand. The last thing the oligarchs want is for this guy to have more of a platform.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 62 points 2 weeks ago (38 children)

Well the swine killed George Floyd.

If they kill him, protest is the only thing working class can do practically so gonna need to hit the streets.

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As measured, obtainable, and realistic as your goal is, I fear it will be ineffective. Protesting is practical, safe, and easily ignored. One CEO gets popped, and suddenly there's murmurs, unified, across the political spectrum. The elites need to know the sheer terror of writhing masses, wielding blunt and rusty tools, awash with unabated malice.

[–] D1G17AL@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The next protests won't just be people holding signs...

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 114 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

American police once again showing to us how unfit for the job they are.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I think the issue here is what you think the job is, not the other way around.

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[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The police in the US are there to protect and serve the 1%, AKA the Oligarchs. It’s be wonderful if they actually wanted to serve and provide safety for their communities. I’m sure there are a few in every city that actually want to do the right thing but as a whole, police are basically only around to protect property and harass anyone they think might be a threat to said property, especially when said property is owned by one of the Oligarchs.

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[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 92 points 2 weeks ago

Media will now work hard to turn him from hero to zero.

They gotta protect those sponsor dollarsp

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 86 points 2 weeks ago

The US is disgusting. I hate this country so much.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Obviously they want to make an example. They'll drag him through the mud in court, reveal that he was sexually deviant, claim he cheated on tests in school, played video games, played d&d, worshipped Satan, on and on. Then, when they've dragged the court out long enough to bore people, they'll execute him publicly and call it justice.

They won't epstein him, too obvious and likely to generate martyrdom. Killing him like a "common murderer" shows that "the system works" and that the machinery of the state's actions are natural and inevitable.

Or maybe they'll try to just lock him away forever and get him to write some books to make the prisons a little more money. Works for serial killers, and sales of "How to murder a CEO" will help to defuse revolutionary sentiment by recuperating the murder as an exotic one-off situation. He's gonna get simple-ricked.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

played video games

I know you're joking, but there's already articles claiming him playing Among Us was proof he was a bad egg.

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[–] garretble@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago

"Altoona pizza is gross and weird!"

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (18 children)

Here's my guess as to what's going on. We all knew that the picture they posted of his face last week was a different dude. Half the internet was saying that. But Luigi realized it looked like him and skipped out of town so he didn't get in trouble for something he didn't do. That would explain why he looked sketchy when he was in the McDonald's. Dude was probably shitting his pants. He was just trying to get out of town before he got falsely ID'd as the culprit. He's been saying that they planted evidence on him which totally makes sense. What are the fucking chances he had literally every piece of evidence on him that they needed when he was just at a fucking McDonald's?

This just sounds hella suspicious. But I guess they found the scapegoat they were looking for.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 47 points 2 weeks ago

This is just motivated reasoning. Someone thinking "Oh no, I look kinda like that guy! I'm fucked!" seems incredibly far-fetched to me.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 44 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What are the fucking chances he had literally every piece of evidence on him that they needed when he was just at a fucking McDonald's?

Highest profile case in a century and prosecutor gets iron clad convication starter pack?

They don't care about justice... Who ever killed the parasite sent a message...

The elite is returning a favour and there is a chance Luigi is being framed.

This whole thing got psyop written all over it. We just don't know which part which is tell tale sign of a psyop lol

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[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If this ain't the real guy then all that he really needs is for the real one to pop off another CEO and take credit that time.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

So they did arrest the wrong man. How long before they "sucide" him?

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 73 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

In his mugshot they put him in a vest reserved for people who are a suicide risk. He is definitely going to get Epsteined

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[–] GelatinGeorge@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm unsure if he means his arrest is unjust due to the order of magnitude worse injustice of the healthcare system or Luigi stating he's not the culprit (vigilante, hero, The Adjuster - whatever noun floats your boat).

It seems like the former? Annoyingly unclear.

[–] Ciderpunk@lemmy.world 131 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He’s claiming the police planted evidence on him as a attempt to justify denying bail. Specifically he says they planted a large amount of cash that he didn’t have on him ever and has no idea where it came from, and they lied about a waterproof bag he had for his phone, saying it was a faraday cage, and claiming his possession of such an item means he’s too sophisticated a criminal to be allowed bail.

He knows what’s coming. They aren’t gonna want him to get to speak to a jury because it’s not gonna be a guarantee they convict him. If he gets a not guilty verdict, that would be VERY bad for the ruling class, so that’s not gonna be allowed to possibly happen.

[–] GelatinGeorge@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yeah, I'm already extremely suspicious at the convenience of his arrest, given that there has to be a repercussion shown to the 'plebs' - can't have them getting ideas now about the ease with which they could depose their ruling oligarchs and actually get away with it.

I didn't know about those details regarding the evidence being planted, so his statement makes much more sense with that context, thank you.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I was suspicious the instant they called out the 3D printed "ghost gun". While certainly possible, it was waaay too convenient an excuse given how that may have swung some opinions about gun safety and control. Now they're rushing this.

Keep an eye out for thinly veiled attempts at obfuscation.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

The cops leaked/released a picture of him in jail after he peed his pants, likely from being teased or something.

And multiple of him in the suicide prevention room, which notoriously doesn't prevent suicides, and is complete 24/7 isolation with only a weird smock.

It's not to prevent suicide, it's torture. So he's likely screaming about how he's actively being tortured.

He's rich tho, his lawyer will likely get him bail.

It's like insane this is the standard and no politician ever wants to address our system.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 37 points 2 weeks ago

To*

He shouted to the media. Dumb editor.

[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They are going to crucify this guy.

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