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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 185 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

To the people thinking this means Russia will no longer be able to interfere with other countries over the internet: you are probably mistaken. Disinformation teams will still be connected to the internet. All this will mean is Russians having even less exposure to the world outside of what little Vladolf wants them to see.

It will probably make the European CS2 servers less toxic though.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Less hackers in games?

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[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Less hackers in games?

Half of the people in Jita 4-4 disappear overnight.

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[–] ouch@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

How are we going to get more treasures like "Blending in with the Russians"?

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[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 133 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Russia tests cutting ~~itself~~ their citizens off from the rest of the internet

The state would certainly continue to interfere with the rest.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In the long term is will fuck over their ability to hack stuff. You're essentially ruining people's ability to develop talent at tech. Even if u want to train them in it as military, it would be new to them.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

Nah, they'd just do what NK does and pull out the "brightest" and train them in cyber

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If everybody but the state is blocked, then any connections from Russia would be pretty fucking obviously the state. Honestly, that's the best thing that could happen, since it would make figuring out what they are doing easy as fuck. But I have no doubt they are smart enough to just send their teams to China or something like North Korea does.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 104 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

Wouldn’t it collapse their economy? Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world? And doesn’t a shitton of money flow into Russia via ransomware

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago

Shh. Just smile and wave.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world?

I think those will move somewhere with Internet connectivity.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 76 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] AuroraB@lemmy.blahaj.zone 71 points 1 week ago (6 children)

As a queer person in a place currently under russian control, I find a lot of the comments in favour of the censorship problematic. Being gay in public is illegal here, so a lot of our queer people find communities on the Internet. Being cut off from those would be terrible.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry you’ve been saddled with that, friend. I hope things get better in Russia (or Ukraine, Transnistria, or Georgia, think that covers all the places they occupy) in your lifetime

[–] AuroraB@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

I hope I'll escape before it collapses, otherwise life will be unnecessarily difficult for a decade or two

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[–] OhFudgeBars@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Russian Federation? M-more, more like, like... Russian De-Federation, am I right?

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

cs.rin.ru and rutracker ;_;

Also many people from the cracking scene y general.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)
  • Again.

They do this every few years.

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[–] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 33 points 1 week ago

Fuck. Please don't take down Sci hub... I know there are mirrors elsewhere, should I be worried?

I'm not even going to make the usual joke, by saying sarcastically that I don't use it and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. It's the biggest contributor to scientific progress in the last decade and I'm tired of pretending it's not

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm sure going full north Korea and cutting of everyone below the government is gonna work well

[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Depends upon how you measure "well".

The Kim dynasty is still going strong, three generations in. Odds are that the Kims and probably a number of people at the top would be worse-off if things changed. From their perspective, things probably are going pretty well in North Korea.

Of course, the standard of living of the North Korean public is pretty horrendous, the economy is undeveloped, and North Korea doesn't have a lot of international clout. If your metric is whether the typical person in society is living well or whether the country is powerful, wealthy, or secure, then things aren't going very well.

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

NK never had Internet. The people never lost anything. Everyone in Russia is online. They might not have toilets, but they have mobile data.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Lmao is russia gonna be even worse than China? At least China still somewhat have access to foreign websites (emphasis on the "somewhat").

Edit: Also, aren't telephones still working? Just call a friend/relative outside of the country to obtain information, or ask someone who has a friend/relative out of the country and ask for information on your behalf.

Have they banned mail yet? Try using mail lol.

They're gonna need to do a nationwide lockdown to stop all information.

(Funny thing is, no matter how hard China tries, I (I'm in the US) can still call relative in China and tell them all the info that the CCP has hidden from them)

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also, aren't telephones still working? Just call a friend/relative outside of the country to obtain information, or ask someone who has a friend/relative and ask for information on your behalf.

In Putin Russia friend calls you! And by friend I mean your neighbor, and by call you I mean call the police to arrest you because you have dared to ask for information. Straight to the gulag for you!

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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The smart ones all know how to use VPNs as well. They know what's up.

Crazy thing is they only need to control the masses who are mostly uneducated or don't care enough to figure out what's going on. Turns out that even the USA has a massive group of the latter type.

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is that right, you can just like call China, no Great Phone Firewall?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

Yeah. My parents always calls and talk to my aunts and uncles in China. I mean you can say things like "Xi Jingping is stupid" and nothing would happen, but if you say "So lets kill Xi Jingping" that'd gonna get you in trouble (at least, my relative in China would, I'd be safe in the US).

Basically, the reason is, China still need to conduct trades and bussiness with the world, so they allow some level of freedom to keep people happy, but wechat groups shitting on Xi is gonna mysteriously disband. (people aren't gonna even gonna get arrested unless you're the group creator) A one to one conversation isn't gonna cause a protest unlike internet forums or group chats, that why (at least, why I think) they don't care about phone calls.

People have a misconception that China is nazi Germany, or East Germany, but its not that bad. (I mean its not "great" but its not "nazi germany", you get what I'm saying?)

Edit: Although, if something happened and there were to be nationwide protests in China, I'd bet they'll cut off phone calls and make an excuse like "riotors sabotaged the cell towers" or some BS like that.

Edit 2: Fun fact: Vietnam doesn't even block Google, the last time I checked. Some youtuber went to Vietnam and Google works somehow.

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No offense but this is incredibly short sighted and you're assuming the average person seeks out new information. We really don't and are more exposed to it in our daily lives of consumption. In 5, 10, 15 years it will increasingly become a problem being cut off from the outside world. Even now many believe the propaganda

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

Finally, I'll have decent teammates in Countrstrike 2.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This sucks, I've met so many very cool and interesting Russian people. The internet is meant to connect people not box them in an echo chamber.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Their hacking teams will still be connected.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I meam, the rest of the world could cut them off.

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[–] john89@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

No, let's not encourage this even as a joke.

All cutting Russia off from the rest of the internet will do is making them more radicalized and give even less opportunities for good ideas and good people to fight back.

That's why China does it. That's why Iran did it.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

It will be a dark day for piracy...

Luckily, libgen and sci hub are not based there

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I hope rutracker will stay available :P

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

tbf the internet is going to consist mostly of 3 things in the future:

  • propaganda
  • scientific information
  • funny cat videos

So I guess it's not really a surprise that this is happening.

[–] Lightsong@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was gonna say you forgot porno but then

scientific information

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The worst (to me, anyway) part is that a LOT of pirate stuff will disappear if the russian internet gets gated

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago

So turning it into an intranet.

[–] tupalos@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

That’s where all the best illegal movies come from!

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Lol peace suckas

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They're really into cable cutting these days. Maybe we should help.

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