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Robert “Bobby” Kinch, a former Las Vegas homicide detective, is revealed as the leader of the Utah-based Oath Keepers USA, a spinoff of the militia linked to the January 6 Capitol attack.

Kinch, who retired from the force in 2016, has a controversial history, including Facebook posts advocating a “race war” and a photo of him pointing a gun at a plate with Barack Obama’s image.

Critics highlight the threat of extremists in law enforcement.

The Oath Keepers remain active, adding police officers to their ranks amid Trump’s potential return to power.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 156 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember when every single house Republican voted against investigating the depth of white supremacist penetration into the armed forces and police departments? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-republicans-vote-against-neo-223633093.html

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 week ago

We have decided not to investigate ourselves and found absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some of those that work forces...

Man, it is really depressing having to still qoute a 33 year old RATM song.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the line should have been

MOST of those that work forces...

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

It certainly turns out to be so.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some... uh... some of those that... ya know, work forces. Just... just sayin'

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You mean the same people who regularly shoot unarmed black people, do all kinds of shitty things to get poor people in jail, and work for an institution originally implemented to catch slaves are led by a militant racist?

Color me surprised. Almost like that was obvious a long ass time ago.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This. The fact that u.s. police forces are infiltrated by racist sh*theads is one of the worst-kept secrets on Earth.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This guy is special. He apparently had several plaques in his house with a certain Hemingway quote:

"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."

There's an implication that he's killed several people while covered by the state's monopoly on violence, and he liked it. Even among cops, he's a special kind of terrible.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ahhh, so it is the guy from the Propublica article.

They didn't mention his name, but this is clearly him.

[–] marron12@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The article does mention him by name. His part of the story starts in section 5 (the detective and the sheriff). I couldn't believe the part where the mole brought a bug to the Kinch's house, his dog stole it, and then he just handed it back without asking questions.

Same guy who bragged about being on a "black squad" and woke up with blood on his hands, wondering if he had killed someone.

Link for anyone who missed the article. It's a long read, but worth it.

Oh shit you're right. My brain just full on ignored that I guess, than you!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

Soon to be a member of the Trump administration.

[–] Emberleaf@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it be interesting if we started an investigation into how many right-wing extremists are currently holding positions in the White House? We already know at least one person opened a door for the Jan. 6th terrorists. I'm willing to bet that the rot goes a lot deeper than that...

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I'm certainly interested

[–] nnullzz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://www.propublica.org/article/ap3-oath-keepers-militia-mole

Greta article talking about this very same guy and the mole who helped release the info.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thunberg wasn't mentioned once in that whole article...

But seriously, I read the whole thing a couple days ago and what a ride. Dude was getting pretty paranoid towards the end, but he got out safely and now we have some knowledge of their inner workings. I hope he takes some comfort in that.

[–] quicklime@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We / our society need many more like that guy, but I wouldn't wish that level of stress on anyone. I'll bet he gave two years off his eventual lifespan for every year undercover. On the other hand, lifespan would be worth so little in a white-supremacist christofascism.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even if more people were willing, most don't have the skills. That guy very carefully practiced lying in order to infiltrate the group. He decided to use those skills for good rather than, say, defrauding a rich old widow out of her money.

[–] quicklime@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Yes -- surely the eligible pool is tiny at best. And the pull to use skills of deception for profit instead is widespread.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

as i always say, ACAN, all cops are nazis

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The department attempted to contain the fallout by quietly adopting a new social media policy in July 2015 that explicitly prohibits discriminatory speech and threatens termination for violations.

Makes sense. We don't care if you're racist, just don't advertise it because it makes the department look bad.

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

shocked...shocked I say!

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Somehow not surprised.