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Democrats are standing firm in their refusal to bail out the House Republican majority as it struggles to elect a new speaker 10 days after after booting Rep. Kevin McCarthy.

They're also dialing up the rhetoric against the GOP’s new nominee for speaker, prominent Donald Trump ally Jim Jordan of Ohio, blasting him as an insurrectionist, election denier and extremist.

“House Republicans have selected as their nominee to be the speaker of the people’s House the chairman of the chaos caucus, a defender in a dangerous way of dysfunction, and an extremist extraordinaire,” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., said Friday on the steps of the Capitol, flanked by dozen of Democratic lawmakers. “His focus has been on peddling lies and conspiracy theories and driving division amongst the American people.”

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 132 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Instead of "trashing Gym Jordan as an 'insurrectionist'" it should read "reminding them that Gym Jordan is an insurrectionist".

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, "trash" is used appropriately.

trash (v): to subject to criticism or invective especially : to disparage strongly

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes but in the political landscape it implies the usual hyperbole and rhetoric. That he is an insurrectionist is a simple fact and should be treated as such.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't imply anything but strong criticism.

If anything, you are the one inferring rhetoric and hyperbole simply because the criticism comes from politicians.

[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

In sports, 'trash talk' is saying mostly untrue negative things about the other team as part of pumping up your team. Maybe it has different connotations for people who don't interact with sports culture, but for me it strongly implies rhetoric and hyperbole.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah why should they help cleanup the other sides fucking mess, not like they’d get credit and cooperation if they did.

[–] hibsen@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly it’s astounding that they’ve apparently managed to realize this for once. I’ll have to send a letter of thanks or something.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Seriously... Treating bad faith children as if they're functioning adults is the ONLY thing Democrats are actually great at. Maybe if they start acting like there actually is something to be responsible for, this country might have a sliver of a chance.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why do the Dems have to "help" the GOP? I say the GOP isn't helping the Dems! All it would take is a handful of Rs to vote with the Dems to make Jeffries the speaker.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 36 points 11 months ago

Asked what Jordan can do to change minds, Armstrong said: “Talk to people, listen to people. He’s really good at it…”

beg to fucking differ, you servile cunt

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 32 points 11 months ago

“People can talk a big game about that. I haven’t personally heard anybody talk about that; it’s only hearsay,” he said. “But I think that’s pretty nuclear. Let’s keep this conventional.”

This quote by a Republican Congressman explains absolutely everything that is wrong about the GOP. The idea of talking to Democrats to see what compromise could take place is considered a "nuclear" option. Keep in mind that had 5 districts gone the other way nationwide, Republicans would be in the minority. But they're talking as if they have an ironclad majority that demands they never compromise on anything.

This party deserves to die.

[–] kibiz0r@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So…

The second-largest voting bloc (moderate Republicans) is angry at the first-largest voting bloc (Democrats) for voting for their preferred candidate, cuz they think they’re entitled to the votes of the third-largest voting bloc (MAGA Republicans).

Makes sense.

Edit: Not sure why I got down-dooted to oblivion right off the bat. ¯\(ツ)

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuck you mean “trashing”?

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Clickbait. Common in journalism nowadays.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Defending bigotry with soft language, common in journalism nowadays.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Not you, the headline trends

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com -5 points 11 months ago

What bigotry are you talking about?

[–] duckCityComplex@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

At the risk of sounding like a hopeless optimist... Wouldn't it make sense for the Republicans to nominate more of a centrist with promises to work on common ground with the Democrats (whatever narrow terrain that may consist of now) and thereby sideline the MAGA crew to irrelevancy?

Yeah they would take a lot of heat from Trump & co., but maybe they could actually pass something for their constituents.

[–] floppade@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

Even if Dems wanted to help sincerely, why would they aid a party whose platform is to harass the shit out of everyone else. Nevermind the fact that the staffers are probably still dealing with the fear from Jan 6 in therapy; helping get Jim Jordan up of all people is voting for a dude who indirectly tried to kill you. The idea of even asking for that is so weird to me.

[–] NightLily@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 11 months ago
[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 11 months ago

House Minority Leader needs to nominate an r they can work with. That will turn up the heat.