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    [–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

    Honestly I'm gonna go against what people usually say and say that Arch is better to start with than Ubuntu, as long as you're not afraid of command line or editing txt files. Whether it's Arch or Ubuntu, as a noob you're going to be doing a lot of wiki reading and copying and pasting of commands.

    Personally though, a big difference between the two I found is that after a couple of years of copying and pasting commands in Ubuntu, I still didn't really understand anything about how Linux works behind the scenes. Whereas Arch had me feeling like I too could be a sysadmin, if I felt like it, within a week.

    And maybe things are different these days with Ubuntu, it's been a few years, but I find that Arch has a way more enthusiastic and helpful user base. And the Arch wiki is practically a bible. Whereas searching for problems and solutions in Ubuntu can feel a bit like searching for problems and solutions in Windows, where you'll probably get copy pasted generic solutions or someone telling you to restart your PC.

    [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

    Arch as a first distro is an interesting choice.

    But likely fr better than my first distro, Slackware.

    I had known about the Church of the Subgenius and then heard that there was a Linux distro based on that...

    At the time, the wikis were not really up to the task...

    These days I run Mint on my writing laptop, and unfortunately am back to Windows on my gaming rig.

    But might swap back to Gaurda for gaming...

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

    I feel like with the Arch distributions like EndeavourOS and CachyOS it's a lot easier nowadays.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 6 hours ago

    I agree with you for a hobby OS. Like if somebody wants to learn and knows generally how to back up what they don't want to lose, Arch is invaluable! I'm currently enjoying EndeavourOS on my gaming laptop for how newb-friendly the community is.

    If someone just wants a working machine that allows them to dabble if they're feeling it, Mint is good for that. Not everyone's gotta be a sysadmin right?

    I personally feel like OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is a great balance though.

    It works, yet it rolls, and you can still mess around if you want. Although it's sometimes frustrating when it does things differently than Arch or Ubuntu and the advice is scant... But I guess that's it's own learning experience!

    I occasionally make a project out of learning things like compiling software, but it doesn't demand too much maintenance when I just need to get stuff done.

    [–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    Thata how i learnt. Arch + i3. Broke it a couple times, but learnt alot

    [–] kina@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

    Same here! College friends spent hours late night helping me install and configure Arch + i3 on an old MacBook, going crazy trying to get wifi working. Great memories

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

    Same. Time Shift was a god send in those first few months. But that was the only way I was going to learn...

    [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

    Thank God they didn't try to install open BSD

    [–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    I've been playing with Bazzite

    [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    Bazzite is so good, especially on the Steam Deck. I did run with Arch for awhile, but ended up switching back to Bazzite when I realized that all I ended up doing was recreating Bazzite in Arch. KDE 6 with all the gaming essentials pre-configured is just so nice.

    As someone who currently uses Windows 10 w/ NVIDIA hardware and a destain for W11, I'm definitely liking Bazzite.

    Apparently though DirectX games don't perform as well as well compared to Windows though. At least heard from an ROG Ally Bazzite vs windows comparison I saw on YouTube

    [–] Jumi@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    I switched from Windows to Mint this week and I'm also that derpy dragon

    [–] yeah@feddit.uk 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    Heh. I just went from a Chromebook to mint.

    Honestly baffled by the basics. Currently youtubing how to mount a NFS share from (on?) my NAS.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

    Not 100% sure if there's an easy-mode for this one but just a friendly reminder to copy fstab to fstab.old or fstab.backup so you can revert to it if something doesn't go right. :)

    [–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    Are you me?! Also just migrated to Mint, and I'm really impressed. Good level of polish, and stuff just works out of the box.

    Currently still have it on dual boot, I'll give it a week or two and I don't need Windows in that time I'll move it to my main M2 SSD and ditch M$

    [–] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    I tried it from a USB drive first and when I saw how easy it is I just took the leap and fully switched.

    My biggest worry was gaming but even there was no problem at all

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 6 hours ago

    Same story! The improvements in the gaming sphere really need to be experienced to be believed. But okay, Steam works great, we know that.

    What about stuff that requires EA's launcher through Steam? Works.

    EA exclusive stuff? Heroic Launcher. Works.

    GoG? Heroic Launcher.

    Ahh, but old disc games that Windows decided to just stop caring about anymore? Bottles. (Not 100% guarantee, but I've been IMPRESSED at how easy it was to get something like Sims 1 to play.)

    ~~Hotel? Trivago.~~

    Now I just hope the Monado project can make some leaps so we can get WMR devices working on Linux. VR is super neat and I don't wanna leave it behind completely. :( (Still grudging against M$ so hard for that.)

    [–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    I was you six months ago.

    Formated the W10 drive before christmas as I never spun it up anymore. Have fun in Linux!

    [–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

    I don't even need it to be fun! I just need it to work, and not stuff me full of scummy invasive spyware and bloatware every time an update rolls around.

    Having fun is just that cherry on top!

    [–] utopiah@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    So... actually (put on fedora hat) it's a GREAT way to learn!

    What I do NOT recommend though is distro hopping with your data and your daily life setup. Namely the safest to learn is main system is stable, easy to setup and fix, you're comfortable with even if you are not "proud" to claim it on Lemmy BUT the weird stuff you do on the side, it's on a dedicate harddrive (ideally not even partition, just so that you can even mess that up) and you go LinuxFromScratch of whatever rock your boat knowing your data is safe and if you fuck up you can still go on with your day.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

    This is great advice. Heed this advice, people.

    Know what? I'll add to it. In Windows a power user will often end up screwing around in the registry or system files or whatever to crowbar it into doing what they want it to do...

    But if you're opening a root shell or file-explorer screwing around outside your /home folder, digging around in / ? On your daily use machine?

    STOP. ☠️

    • FACT: ~~People~~ Systems have died and data has been irrecoverably lost by going into this cave.
    • There's probably a much less dangerous way to accomplish whatever you're trying to do!!
    • You shouldn't be poking around things and exploring a working system as ROOT! This is by design!

    GO. NO. FURTHER!

    These sorts of shenanigans are why you play around in virtual machines. :)

    --Sincerely: Someone who manually deleted his writable in-use BTRFS snapshot when trying to free up space, thinking it was an orphan file that the system tools didn't detect, rendering his system unbootable and unrecoverable, forcing a complete reinstall. (I found this is analogous to the infamously dangerous "rm -rf /" , or thinking you're deleting an old Windows restore point but somehow wiping C:\ )

    If you don't know what "3-2-1 backup" means. Now's the time to look that up!

    [–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    put on fedora hat

    I see what you did there

    [–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

    I feel it sould be a Red Hat in this context

    [–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 29 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

    It's actually how IT career ladder looks from right to left

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