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[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 85 points 4 months ago (2 children)

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/does-nicotine-affect-muscle-growth

There is data to show nicotine might have a performance increasing effects on people. However, the idea is more that you ingest a safe amount via methods that are not smoking/chewing.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 72 points 4 months ago (1 children)

THAT'S WHY I DRINK A SUGAR-FREE REDBULL WITH EXTRA CREATINE, PROTEIN POWDER, AND PROBIOTICS MIXED IN WHILE CHEWING SEVEN ZYNS BEFORE EVERY 15 MINUTE SET. I NO LONGER SLEEP AND MY HEARTBEATS CANNOT BE DISTINGUISHED. MY LUNGS ARE PERFECT AND MY BODY IS PRISTINE!

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 77 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Your heartbeat is measured in Hz

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Come to think of it, a normal heart rate would be like 1-3hz depending on activity

[–] itsworkthatwedo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Clanket@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Thanks for clarifying that

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Im stealing this for if my brother complains about his heartbeat after staying up for like 18 hours on six cans of red bull again

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Nicotine itself is hardly worse than say caffeine. But obviously the negative effects of burning and inhaling a cigarette (with all that it contains), especially the carcinogenic agents, is absolutely stupid to think it's an even trade to pump your workout

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Oh, nicotine is way worse. It may not harm your health directly, but addictiveness is exponentially worse.

Wikipedia: Dependence and Withdrawal: Moderately physical dependence and withdrawal symptoms may occur upon abstinence, with greater than 100 mg caffeine per day, although these symptoms last no longer than a day

Wikipedia: Nicotine withdrawal Symptoms are usually strongest for the first few days and then dissipate over 2–4 weeks (...) In a minority of smokers, cravings may persist for years.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I smoked cigarettes for four years, then quit for a decade. I was incredibly stressed out and had 2-3 cigarettes for a couple days in a row and now I’m addicted again. I hope I will be able to quit soon, I just have to stop working where I am first, because I need the five minute breaks and don’t get them otherwise.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is switching to vaping an option? You'd still be getting the nicotine, but not the smoke/tar

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It is, but I feel like the additional harm to myself is worth not getting a vape with all of the environmental drawbacks to the casing and battery, especially because I really think it’ll only be another few weeks. I already have a new job lined up, and I won’t be able to smoke during that really at all.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago

As a long time daily coffee drinker, that is definitely not accurate about caffeine withdrawal. Every time I try to quit caffeine I go through multiple weeks of depression and physical weakness symptoms.

And as a former smoker, nicotine is still significantly worse. Never touch the stuff, not even once. For a lot of people, there just is no going back from it. It claims you.

[–] piconaut@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've smoked cigars occasionally, maybe as many as 2-3 per week for 2 weeks in a row and then just stopped with no signs of addiction. Nicotine is often described as one of the most addictive drugs and I sometimes wonder if I just never took enough to get addicted in the first place or my experience is a result of lower than average susceptibility to nicotine addiction.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Probably both. They're not mutually exclusive

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I've heard that but how else is one supposed to get nicotine in the system? Chewing gum? Patches? Vapes? Is it soluble in a substance that's safe to consume?

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Nicotine is water soluble. You can take a wet tobacco leaf off the plant and it'll soak into your skin and get you a bit buzzed (or in my case when I discovered this mid harvest if you touch enough it'll get you massively high and nauseous). Imo one of the best ways to get some in relative safety is grow your own, they're really easy, and just put a leaf under your tongue for a bit then spit it out

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Its highly highly illegal to grow it in my country unfortunately.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't let laws stop you from doing harmless shit.

Unless, of course, your country aggressively enforces that and has extreme penalties.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Part of the problem with using tobacco this way (basically diy dip) is that tobacco leaves themselves contain carcinogenic nitrates that will still have long term health impacts. If you're going to consume nicotine, it's best that your source is as close to chemically pure as you can get. Synthetic nicotine is by and large the safest option outside of simply not consuming nicotine in any form. It's still incredibly addictive and cardiotoxic

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[–] 000999@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

If u aren't already addicted, don't even bother. Nicotine is fucking insane

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[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nicotine in comparable or larger doses from non-toxic or much less toxic sources is arbitrarily limited for stupid reasons.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 63 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you just smoke two (for the health benefits) you don't even need to work out.

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Well if I smoke four (for the health benefits), then it's like I worked out twice!

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they don't allow it at the casino so I can't smoke while I gamble (for the health benefits)

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 7 points 4 months ago

Army commander says "smoke 'em if you got 'em" right before we enter battle, but I already have (for health benefits).

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Smoking doesn't increase testosterone ... it makes your voice sound like you have more testosterone

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So if I have more testosterone, at one point I'll be coughing?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Are you John Wayne?

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I once called a friend at home, back before mobile phones were common, only to have some older man answer. Shit, did I call the wrong number? My mind started racing: his mom is divorced and doesn't have a boyfriend from what my friend told. It's unlikely my friend's voice dropped 3 octaves overnight.. Fuck, did somebody murder them and picked up the phone? Am I ne... Oh wait, his mom is a living chimney, ah.. 'Hi *friend's mom*'.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've seen this once before. Addicted and hindered but can't accept it. So they convinced themselves that what they were doing was right

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I mean, this is clearly a bit, but I don't think addicts smoke exactly one cigarette a day. Some people who smoke small amounts never become addicted. I used to smoke, like, half a pack over a few weeks, forget where I left it, and then go months without smoking. Haven't smoked at all in probably eight years now, not because I intentionally quit but just because I couldn't be assed to carry them around any more. (I really only started buying cigs so that I could stop telling people I didn't smoke when they asked to bum one.)

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago

Gotta confuse the lungs babe

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Either that, or retarded is fucking him

[–] Syltti@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Retarded do be fucking a lot of us... Without consent, I might add.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

And no lube either

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[–] midnight_puker@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago
[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago

Well, no, but actually yes

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

What listening to Andy Taytay does to you.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Smoking cigarettes for health benefits is like messing with an angry bear, so that you can have a jog.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

There is like that one illness where smoking actually helps. I totally forget what it's called though.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Yep. Completely retarded.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

The purpose of working out is to look cool......... Now that I've discovered cigarettes that's mission accomplished.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ive seen people talk about how to increase their testosterone level(or avoid decreasing it), but arent there pills with the purpose of increasing it?

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

my dad has a testosterone gel. because without it he cannot gain hardly any muscle at all, like I worked out for like 2 months and could lift more than he could in over 1+ year of working out 5 days a week.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Dr Gundy follower in the wild.

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