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[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

MUSK ISN'T FUCKING ELECTED WHO THE FUCK CARES IF HE'S "TANKING" WHAT THE FUCK

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 6 points 7 hours ago

Man, if Musk is tanking this hard, I am not sure he's going to get re-elected.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Dictators generally don’t concern themselves with what their subjects think.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

Oh no! Wormtongue isn’t popular amongst those that didn’t vote for him?

Say it ain’t so!

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

He doesn't care about being popular or unpopular. He's the king now, he can do whatever he wants.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Oh idk, musk/zuck definitely have masculinity and self confidence issues. They have to buy their "man" card and seek approval from everyone. I think trump is similar, he's melted down before over dumb shit.

[–] maccam912@programming.dev 3 points 7 hours ago

If Trump thinks in ratings, spread the word that ever since this musk character got introduced the ratings for the old Trump character are plummeting. If Elon is in the picture there is no room left for an old deal making business guy and they should write him out of the script. Although I bet ratings would skyrocket on this show if they had an episode where the tension between Trump and musk boils over while they are isolated in a bunker stuck with each other. Talk about great TV!

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

He doesn't care what people think as long as he has power. He could steer a ship into rocks, sink and his die hard supporters would blame Biden/Obama or anyone else.

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So? What you guys gonna do about it? Nothing probably.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

Lol, so, literally true, but not for the reason they thought...

I love it, I wouldn't even have thought to check....

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We are boycotting everything the us makes. Plus when you guys get here, I'm not gonna lay down and take it and neither will the rest of us. I plan and fighting tooth and nail to stay canadian.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

It's not "you guys." I am not my government any more than you are yours.

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, you're right. I know not all of you are to blame for this. Shouldn't have included you in that. No excuse for that.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 7 hours ago

Wow, you guys really are super nice. I like the cut of your jib. :)

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

There’s dumb people all over. They’re not just here in America. Some people won’t see nuance or reason, but instead, what they want things to be.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

43 percent support what Trump has done in his first month

43% would touch a hot oven burner

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So does "tanking" mean being laid in front of a tank and run over multiple times?

Because I can get behind this.

[–] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Time to start a other shitty TokTik trend!

insert shitty AI voice "Only billionaires can afford to do this challenge!"

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The entire point of Musk being so visible is to pin all the unpopular stuff on him.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Every dictator needs toadies to do their dirty work though. Hitler had his Himmler, Stalin his Beria.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Thing is that Bronzo the Clown looks like a cuck even to a redcap when you watch fElon and Hannity talking over him, or fElon and his kid in the WH doing more talking than Bronzo as he sits there looking like he's sundowning.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It gives Democrats an opening - in two years, if there are still elections.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Assuming they get off their asses and vote this time. Also they need to learn their lesson and focus on a few issues and more on working class American economic issues and less on identity politics.

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

Lol elections. You don't think they've planned for that? There won't be elections in 2 years. He's gutted half the government already.

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

I keep seeing this... folks really think we're gonna get to vote again.

[–] Saljid@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Oh, you will. In the same sense that Russia has elections.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

America follows the course of Nazi Germany. The US had their Machtergreifung, and if they might get the next Democratic elections in (1949-1933)=16 years, after the Americans came in and stopped the Nazis. Oh, wait...

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

How are they going to stop it? Republicans have been trying to stop elections since 2017, they're not smart enough to figure out how. They couldn't even figure out how to schedule a press conference about it at the four seasons.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They gerrymandered my state and the courts said it was ok

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

If you piss off enough people, gerrymandering stops mattering.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 245 points 1 day ago (13 children)

The last poll they cared about was in early November 2024.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Approval always matters, even without democracy.

Democracy is just a managed, fairly agreed upon process for a governed people to exercise their will. But a governed people always have the ability to exercise their will. Authoritarian tactics can make that more difficult, but they cannot ever prevent it.

Remember, if there was nothing people could do to stop them, their propaganda would not be necessary. The fact that they are engaged in information control demonstrates that they do very much care about approval - or, at least, acceptance.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

What did the German Citizenship do in 1934? Because they voted in 1932 to make the Nazi party the largest single party in the Reichstag and for the next 2 years they had no input on the machinations of Hitler to become a dictator. Any of that sound familiar?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power

The speed at which the German government was dismantled was extreme. In less than 45 days after Hindenburg died, Hitler was a dictator. DOGE and Trump are making much of the same changes to our government. Fascist or Monarchist or Oligarchy or Kleptocracy, it doesn't matter. Our government is currently being dismantled at a rate at which our institutions have never seen before.

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/democracy-governance/analyzing-doge-actions-one-month-trumps-second

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/21/trump-wild-first-month-doge-musk/78657028007/

Polls don't matter once they're in power. The only thing that's going to stop this is large unified action at the local level and probably a general strike. Both of which take time to organize and to do so in an encrypted and secure way. That takes time. We're years away.

If you'd like to join an open unencrypted movement you can start at the below links.

https://generalstrikeus.com/aboutus

https://www.fiftyfifty.one/

If you're interesting in organizing locally you could follow the suggestions in this comment.

https://lemmy.world/comment/14983176

or check out https://lemmy.world/c/Resist@fedia.io

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago

You're think you're disagreeing with me, but I want to be clear that you're advocating for exactly the same things I am.

Polls don't matter, but public opinion absolutely does. You can't organize a mass movement of resistance without a mass of people to organize. The fact that Trump's agenda is becoming increasingly unpopular is an opportunity for those organizing resistance to bring in more support.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Americans are still too comfortable to revolt.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Exactly, fascists give zero fucks about public sentiment once they're in power. All they need to do is control the media and polls will align with their goals again. Case in point is the renaming of the Gulf of Mexico

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-02-19/donald-trump-gulf-of-mexico-gulf-of-america

Edit as things are moving very fast.

Here's an even more boldfaced attempt at controlling the media. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-newsmax-oppose-trump-ap-ban_n_67b85283e4b05145b9c53cce

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 17 hours ago

Quite the contrary. They base their power on the perception that they have a mass movement behind them. Protests can break that perception. There's an entire wikipedia article on it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism

It's not time to put away that tool just yet. Protests on a mass scale can do a lot.

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[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 100 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why would Elmo care about his approval ratings? He’s not an elected official.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Because he's a narcissist. He cant help but care.

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

he'll just run the poll on X and his narcissistic injury is healed.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

He cannot stand people not liking him. He's a weird little dude that needs everyone to love him.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Nah, not everyone. He just needs a group of people giving him approval and recognition. His edgelord personality needs people hating him.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Well, tbf, neither are CEOs.

[–] greenshirtdenimjeans@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wouldn’t it be good news for trump if musk is tanking? Maybe he resigns and trump becomes president

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