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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I hope that people in the Pentagon remember that following illegal orders is a crime, too, and you cannot be forced to do so. Something established in Nürnberg when they took care of the Nazis.

An order to attack Canada, Mexico, Greenland, or Panama would basically be such an illegal order.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

When have illegal wars ever stopped the Americans?

I'm sorry but let's not forget that Iraq was a thing.

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 38 points 3 hours ago (6 children)

I know trying to make sense of the stupidity that is Trump's "plan" for America is a lost cause. But why do they speak like turning Canada into a singular state makes any god damn sense??

Also, is war inevitable? I honestly don't know. Shit is not looking good. If war breaks out, I would find a way to flee and volunteer to fight on the opposing side. No way am I supporting my country on the wrong side of history.

[–] match@pawb.social 5 points 1 hour ago

today seems like a good day to remember David Fagen, an American soldier who defected to fight for the Philippines against the American invasion and is remembered as a hero for it in the modern era

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

The US could attack Canada and they could take our cities in Southern Ontario easily, however, that would instantly deputize everyone else and there would be tens of millions of insurgents fighting asymmetrical warfare forever more. We would also destroy all the assets the US sought to take from us cause Canadians are vindictive AF. If we can’t have what’s rightfully ours neither can US invaders.

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

As a Minnesotan. I would never fight our northern neighbors. Fuck our government, nobody wants this except trump and his cronies.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

But he commands the military. So there is that.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

As a Seattlite, I’d be right there with ya if you’d have me.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 hour ago

the Greater Seattle Polycule could be turned into an underground resistance movement

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

We’d need you.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if "concern of a future us invasion" is a reason that disqualifies you from getting a PAL

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently lessons are booked months ahead already, everyone’s educating themselves.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago

Well I guess I should book now, thanks

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, I definitely don't have loyalty to fascism. Being autistic and leftist, they will want me dead. Here's hoping that I can help in some useful way.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

A land war at the border would give him justification to deploy military domestically for “defense”.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

No. War isn't inevitable. People have nukes and definitely will use them if needed. In other words, a cold war might occur, but maybe not regular war at least not in North America.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I honestly think the "better" thing to do is stay inside and try to sabotage the aggressors. This would obviously require a great deal of cunning and bravery.

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 32 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck Trump. Loser cannot die soon enough.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

His death won’t solve our problems. We’ll have Trump adjacent Russian puppet who will run and win. Trump has admitted to fixing the election, so the r’s know they can repeat their strategy again effectively.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Hopefully after the next election. We wouldn't wanna have Adolph Vance do something stupid. Like a few days to a week should be fine. Meanwhile I'd be totally fine with an increasing level of dementia? Like maybe he declares war on Mexico on Sunday, but then travels there for vacation Tuesday, then Wednesday he declares war on Mexico again from Mexico. It could get interesting. So long as he shuts down the government for most of the year, were good.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

This is just a distraction to distract Americans, so they do not pay attention to all the things Krasnov Trump and Felon Musk are doing.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

STFU about this fucking petulant imperialist nonsense. 40 million insurgents is what this orange fuckface will get. US is not getting one fucking square CENTIMETRE of Canadian land. I used metric on purpose too. fuck the USA.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It'll be more than that. There'll be millions of Americans who won't stand for it either. To think of it though, that might be the point. Something so heinous, yet legal (barely), that it legitimately compromises our security and forces martial law and a state of emergency he can exploit.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If he enforced martial law that’s within the US borders. I’ve never heard of a country being under martial law then invading another country but someone please enlighten me. He clearly wants to incite violence, I’m reading Stephen Marche’s The Next Civil War and Marche argues quite effectively that while he doesn’t know what the inciting event will be, the violence willl come from the right.

[–] ceiphas@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Ever heard of the third Reich?

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Of course I’ve heard about it, I’m not a historian so I don’t know all the details about how Germany went about it’s expansionist war other then the basic stuff . Did Hitler declare martial law and then invade Poland and Austria Hungary etc??

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Basically yes. It didn't go well for him eventually.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

JFC I guess that’s what Turnip is gearing up to do. He already declared a bullshit national emergency at the border with Canada. Which was complete verifiable bullshit.

[–] kungfuratte@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

The solution is easy. Canada is already bigger than the USA, so the US should join Canada.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We are one Big Mac-invoked stroke away from being able to afford Canadian Peanut Butter again.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

Okay… that made me laugh. Thanks. Needed that tonight.

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Everything this man does is what a Russian asset would do to weaken the United States.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago

I never thought that WWIII would be started by US. And US being the best buddies with Russia when they are setting the world on fire. I really hope US could get their shit back together soon. That really is a shithole country, not an inch of better than Russia. I don’t have words to describe how much I hate that shithole.

[–] plaguesandbacon@lemmy.ca 27 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

I honestly hope this just fuels our country to find other, better, trade partners and to also bring in free trade between provinces.

He says the US doesn't need Canada, we should do the same.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

He says the US doesn't need Canada but also wants to annex it.

The US absolutely does need Canada's natural resources. The Canadian people and its sovereignty stand between him / America and that golden goose.

If you recall the colonial era, when a stronger nation wants the resources of a weaker nation, it generally does not go well for the weaker nation.

Canada needs to accelerate the process of partnering with other nations now. It is never going to win a trade war against the US alone. Reciprocal tariffs are not going to cut it. Time to diversify the customer base and then tell the Americans to pound sand when they inevitably come knocking.

Canada is already the only G7 nation that has a free trade agreement with all other G7 nations.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I am hoping that Trump is dumb enough to declare war against Canada, the EU, Panama, and Mexico simultaneously. That would make it easier to dogpile the fucker.

For the moment, though, it looks like that he is gearing up against Mexico first. IIRC, something like 10 brigades are being placed at the border. I think he might be able to convince the cartels and official Mexican government to ally, considering that he can't tell the difference between anyone who isn't him.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Fuck, guess I'm buying some guns.

[–] Mr_Crash_Davis@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago

If he really means that, then Punxsutawney Trump has just forecast another four years of recession.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Two months later... OK now that Canada is the 51th state (not 51st, 51th)...the official language is English so we are deporting all the French people here illegally to France!

....Canada: ehhh we're still not a US state. WTF is wrong with Trump's dementia pills?

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (6 children)

Good luck. We have allies and friends who still trade with us that we don't tariff. And as for all of this garbage from Americans asking us to absorb the US instead...

No. Fuck you. You made this mess, you clean it the fuck up. I would not want to touch your shitty country in a hazmat suit BEFORE this recent election. Your country is toxic waste.

If I suddenly stop posting forever in the summer it's because I saw someone wearing a Trump hat here in Newfoundland and proceeded to do some things to him that are very much illegal.

Note to any Americans coming to Canada though for any reason. Ditch the flags and hats and shit. We got tired of it a long time ago but I've outright seen people refuse to serve Americans so far who display any sort of patriotism and I kinda back them on it.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 hours ago

He was sitting right next to the Chair of NATO today when he said this fucking bullshit yet again. The NATO chair said NOTHING even though Orange Shittler talked about violent annexation of a G7 NATO member and (in normal times) ally of the US. Canadians - are you ready to fucking FLQ 2 electric boogaloo ??? Cause it’s looking like that more and more every day.

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[–] Kobie123@lemmynsfw.com 34 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

And there you have it. It was never about fentanyl. It was always about annexation (i should just call it as it is and call it invasion). And that’s why there was never anything that Canada could do to stop the tariffs.

Not much i can do from across the ocean, except join in the boycott. But i’m boycotting anything American. Not just products of red states. I want to see America burn, and for Americans to lay the blame squarely on Trump, Elon, the Republican party and the 31% of Americans who are too stupid or racist to recognise a con.

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