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The nation’s economy expanded at a robust 4.9% annual rate from July through September as Americans defied higher prices, rising interest rates and widespread forecasts of a recession to spend at a brisk pace.

The Commerce Department said the economy expanded last quarter at the fastest pace in nearly two years — and more than twice the 2.1% annual rate of the previous quarter.

Thursday’s report on the nation’s gross domestic product — the economy’s total output of goods and services — showed that consumers drove the acceleration, ramping up their spending on everything from cars to restaurant meals. Even though the painful inflation of the past two years has soured many people’s view of the economy, millions have remained willing to splurge on vacations, concert tickets and sports events.

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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Rich people get richer. When the recession comes, they’ll buy up smaller competitors with our tax money given to them as “bailouts.” It’s all bullshit. Always has been.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the lowest income is zero and the highest income goes from ten billion to a hundred billion, then the median income went up.

Also, if the GDP goes up then GDP per capita goes up, and how it’s distributed doesn’t matter.

This is the madness economists want us to believe.

[–] aaaantoine@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That's the mean (average), not the median (middle).

Median is the one where half the numbers are smaller and half are bigger. If only the top income changes, the median stays the same. The mean goes up.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not only with our tax money but they'll also be buying everything up at a discount. Just like in 2008 when millions lost their homes, the rich fucks were able to buy them all up for pennies on the dollar in foreclosure sales instead of the market rate, sit on them for a few years, and then sell them back to us at 2-3x what they paid.

[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

One salty dumbass bootlicker must’ve downvoted.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...and yet here we are, still shackled by shit like student loan debt, rent, utilities, and food. God forbid the check engine light comes on, or my gallbladder decides to start making stones.

"The economy" doesn't mean shit if it doesn't scale with the fruits of our labor. Just oligarchs getting richer while the rest of us suffer.

Is it guillotine day yet?

[–] ApostleO@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every day is guillotine day if you're brave enough.

The best time to build a guillotine was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.

If I ever ran for president, I'd run on the platform of building a permanent, working guillotine next to every capitol building in the US. Then I'd have a giant guillotine the size of the Statue of Liberty built of American steel, and have it sent to the people of France.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every day is guillotine day if you’re brave enough.

I'm not though. -_-

Or at the very least, I'm fully aware that any attempt I have the means to make would be nigh-guaranteed to yield nothing, and either get me killed or imprisoned. So... daydream time is over; back to the grind.

[–] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know man, those J6 nutters did kinda demonstrate that it's surprisingly easy. No one expects the guillotine.

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's got to be a better way than sinking to their level.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Resorting to violence or even a full blown coup wouldn't come close to sinking to their level if it's actually justified. Doing that kind of thing because your team lost a vote or because you hate non-white/non-straight/non-Christian/non-male people would be stooping to MAGA's level. Decapitating a handful of supervillains who have their boot on humanity's neck is a gain for everyone except our oppressors.

[–] ApostleO@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

Same, unfortunately.

Also, I'm not great at carpentry.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Then I’d have a giant guillotine the size of the Statue of Liberty built of American steel, and have it sent to the people of France.

I love the symmetry of this. I bet the French would set it up near Versailles.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

K, why is it $9 for a box of Raisin Bran Crunch?

[–] protist@mander.xyz 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cereals are all high-margin foods, they charge you that because you'll fucking pay it, you dirty little piggy. Oink oink

Anyway, switch to oatmeal, it's cheaper and there are a million different ways to make it

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't had cereal in like 25 years.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't had breakfast in seven minutes, at least.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is also much healthier.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, almost all boxed cereal is basically candy. One serving of Raisin Bran Crunch has 19g of sugar, which is the same as half a can of coke

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay but that’s the version with frosted bran flakes- it almost makes sense. The crazy thing is that regular Raisin Bran has 18g of sugar

[–] hiddengoat@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only nine of those grams are added sugars. The rest is mostly raisins, because people tend to forget that fruits are sugary as hell somehow.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Most fruit is bred to be more sugary than necessary, because that’s how humans like it. They also have less fiber and protein as a result. Some zoos won’t even feed their chimps bananas anymore because they get diabetes and tooth decay from human-grade bananas.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Well, raisins are concentrated fruit.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You gotta pump that economy, one box of Raisin Bran at a time!

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I used to buy 3 boxes at a time, and now I just eat gruel.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

because that stuff is actually mostly cocaine

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because people are willing to pay it. Because they have the money to. When the economy is “hot” prices go up.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

They also seem to go up when the economy is "cold"... it's like the game is rigged or something.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's misleading at all. An economy is good when companies do good. Companies do good when they make more profit. They make more profit by paying workers less.

So if the GDP grows, it's because people on the bottom are getting squeezed even harder.

[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe in the short term, but ultimately companies make profit when there are lots of consumers with the resources to buy their product. Squeezing employees makes them unable to consume as much, which slows the economy. Ten thousand people buying a $300 TV makes the company way more profit than ten millionaires buying a $30,000 TV.

GDP is a bumpy measure that tries to sum up a lot of complexity in one number, but over time (years) it grows faster when the middle class does well.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Then why bother looking at the number quarterly?

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Clearly I must redouble my efforts to hurt the economy, the mortal enemy of all life everywhere.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Time to lower my productivity again.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hurting productivity is a CIA-recommended tool to fight fascism

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

https://www.openculture.com/2015/12/simple-sabotage-field-manual.html

Or for a more subdued version, see "work to rule". You do your job to the letter, and not a millimeter more. If your job is to make a part, do that and nothing else. Getting it over to packaging? That's not my job.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

your couch is obviously slacking off

[–] hiddengoat@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, you know why?

BECAUSE MORE THAN A MILLION MOTHERFUCKERS DIED DURING THE PANDEMIC AND ALL THAT INHERITANCE WENT SOMEWHERE.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

when good news is actually bad news, you know you are in Wonderland, Alice