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US stocks were sharply lower Friday as investors digested souring consumer sentiment and inflation data that showed an uptick in one of the Federal Reserve’s key gauges, underscoring the delicate state of the economy as businesses brace for President Donald Trump’s tariffs.

The Dow tumbled 750 points, or 1.77%, on Friday. The broader S&P 500 fell 2.1% and the Nasdaq Composite slid 2.8%.

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Wall Street was also grappling with Trump’s announcement on Wednesday of 25% tariffs on all cars shipped into the US, set to go into effect April 3. Trump also announced tariffs on car parts like engines and transmissions, set to take effect “no later than May 3,” according to the proclamation he signed.

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[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Thanks Trump

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 29 points 3 days ago (9 children)

The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

All is going according to plan.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have an acquaintance that works for an old money, very wealthy family from oil money. The kind that influences regional as well as national politics. He worked for them during the last major recession in the late ‘00s. He basically said that his employer and all their buddies were running all over the world buying everything they could “like it is a fire sale” during the recession.

So yeah. This is how we get more billionaires, more oligarchs, and more meta national corpo monopolies where one company controls multiple brand names.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The best we can do is to quit as soon as your company gets purchased. What they are after is the people. Specially the key role people.

Don't document your process. Fix things without opening change requests. That way if you assemble things the quality will drop when you leave.

If you're in a key role, just quit. Don't go fucking around by deleting data. It's better to make up data instead that seems real but is not. Never write an email that is personal or has anger in it because, even if you don't send it, it gets saved. Same for your teams messages. You want to stay in the industry, but just quit if your company gets taken over by a billionaire.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I find it deeply funny that fascism is completely compatible with capitalism (it's arguably its end-state), but they're still tanking the economy because Trump doesn't understand tariffs.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fascism ultimately tanks any system because it prices loyalty above all else and you inevitably end up without any compitent people in charge.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, for sure, fascist regimes have a pretty short shelf-life in general because of cronyism and incompetence. I'm just saying there's nothing inherent to fascism that should be tanking the economy right now in the way, say, a communist revolution would by causing capital flight. If he wasn't pushing the worst, most unnecessary trade war in history, Trump could have a strong economy right now.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They understand tariffs. They want stock prices to tank so they can rake in on slashed prices. This is just more and more of the same wealth transfer in the past 45 years, just so in our faces that people don't want to believe it's happening.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I told my partner that we needed to stop excessive spending like going out to eat while the economy is so uncertain. She was ok with that. I'm not feeling great about our (collective) future. Sigh.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate that going for a meal out is considered excessive, from someone who is in the same boat as you.

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[–] Ironfist@lemmy.ca 133 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 70 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Billionaires and corporations are absolutely winning, in the foreseeable future.

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[–] Asetru@feddit.org 100 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

We also believe the dynamic macro environment has contributed to a more cautious consumer

Am I getting this right? Is this double speak for "the government is fucking up so badly, people try to save some wealth for the inevitable fall of society"?

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 40 points 4 days ago

I think that is what the main point is. Brace for extremely hard times.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Looks like I made the right choice pulling most of my 401k out of stock/blended funds and into stable bonds.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 91 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Looks like I made the right choice by not saving money at all and working until I die.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 71 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue

[–] SilverCode@lemm.ee 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At least you don't have a drinking problem

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Bro just quit buying avocado toast and pull yourself up by them bootstraps, you're just not working hard enough bro get on the grind and then you can maybe retire in a slightly larger cardboard box

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (27 children)

Looks like I made the right choice pulling most of my 401k out of stock/blended funds and into stable bonds.

You've made HALF the right choice. You "sold high", which is great!

However, the harder part is knowing when to go back in for the "buy low" part. If you're out of the market when that recovery occurs you'll be missing out on those gains. I've look at historical recoveries and can tell there is no way I'll know when that time is. I will guess wrong every time.

I hope you're better at it than I am.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 47 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (16 children)

11 weeks ago, '2023' was last year.

This isn't a slump yet. If Dougie shuts off the power to three states, I hope he does it during a break between the "oh no unregulated drinking water had maaaaaaaassive e.coli in it" diarrhea outbreak right when the softwood tariffs have cratered the toilet paper supply the worst.

At that point in time, expect a stark realization of the state of things to cause some sadness to leak into the market too. I predict three northern states fighting for black market TP and shitting prolifically in the dark to really affect the market. But probably, still, not his numbers.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Personally, I am guessing that the American Dollar will end up like the Weimer Republic's currencies.

I am removing my life savings from the bank and turning them into Euros. Everyone's economy will dip, but I am pretty certain America will have a Greater Depression. Unlike the Great Depression or the Weimer Republic, the annihilation of government agencies and fiscal instruments is deliberate & total.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I've moved most of my savings to Gold since around 2010 partly because I was in the Finance Industry during the financial crash of 2008 and saw how the "fixes" done back then weren't at all fixing the problems, just kicking the ball forward on the backs of people whose income mainly comes from work (hence the growth of inequality, slow down in social mobility and insane various bubbles including realestate that kept on getting inflated for the last decade) something which has been fueling the growth of the far right (people are feeling the pain, getting pissed of and lots of money has been put by very rich people into political entities and the newsmedia to spread the idea that it's outsiders who are to blame for all this rather than very wealthy insiders plundering an economy which has ground down to a halt its growth, in collusion with local politicians).

I was also in the Tech Industry during the tech crash of 99, which probably made me even less trusting in the current system's long term stability.

Gold is a pretty old fashioned way to try and retain some value on one's savings, especially in countries where government management of the Economy and the local currency is pretty bad (in my own country of Portugal it used to be pretty popular to get it in the form of jewelry for that purpose, though not anymore, and it apparently still is in India and most of Asia including China).

(Basically, it's the "oh shit" option for when the Economic situation gets very bad and people fear the value of state issued currencies themselves won't hold)

I can tell you that even though Gold has been mostly just kept up with inflation for the last decade and a half (with an uptick when Russia invaded Ukrained), Donald Trump's actions really made the value of Gold in most currencies (especially USD) take off like a rocket, or in other words, that the value of most currencies is falling hard compared to what up to 71 was treated worldwide as the reference "currency".

IMHO, it's a pretty fucked up sign, especially for the US Dollar (which has the extra nasty bit that it stops being the World's Reserve Currency, all the benefits from it will unwind and if that happens fast - within a year or two - we might see shit like hyperinflation in the US).

PS: And if I may gloat a bit, I was living in Britain back when Brexit happened and did call it successfully and saved my savings by having most of them in Gold and Euros when Brexit crashed the British Pound by about 30% vs the Euro, something it never really recovered from. Maybe I was lucky but I remember that at the time and even before the Leave Referendum I felt that the Austerity in Britain was stretching the political environment in the country and that it wasn't a safe place to hold my savings, even though back then all my income was in GBP.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I was in the Finance Industry during the financial crash of 2008

I was also in the Tech Industry during the tech crash of 99

I was living in Britain back when Brexit happened

Your life reads like the lyrics of Sympathy for the Devil.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We need to find where this motherfucker loves and stay away from there.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm Portugal now, so with the luck I have an American invasion of Europe will land here within the next couple of years.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Well, I guess it's one way in which one can have "life experience".

Had I've been given a choice, I would have preferred other options.

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[–] borokov@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Meanwhile, the CAC40...

[–] hark@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wake me up when it's worse than 2022.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Hope you like short naps

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

wow, pandemic numbers without a pandemic. trump rules...!

[–] match@pawb.social 16 points 4 days ago

imagine what it'll look like when the second pandemic hits

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Honestly, kinda surprised it is only dropping this much. Would have though the collapse of the free world as we know it to have more of an impact.

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[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's hard to lie about stock prices, let's watch them continue to shout their propaganda as the riots start.

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)
  1. They inherited Biden's economy

  2. trump can't affect anything so soon

  3. It would be worse under Kamala

  4. We'll just have to suffer a little pain while trump fixes things

Take your pick of weak excuse

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At this point the people that still like trump would happily live in a cardboard box as long as people they didn't like were denied a cardboard box

[–] groolthedemon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

His supporters would clap and cheer in the dark while he unscrews the last lightbulb.

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Thanks trump. (if he can take credit for Biden's economy then he can take credit for his ineptitude too)

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

This isn't because of Bidens ineptitude though. This is entirely Trump's fault. Anyone with half a brain could predict this after attacking our allies and bringing up the tariffs.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

The tarrifs are 100% donnie.

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