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Typst, a very nice Latex alternative, written in rust has published job listings.

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[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want to apply just so I can pronounce it "tipst" during the whole interview.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What, like an anglophone who can't tell the difference between the i and y sounds?

(Or do the anglos actually pronounce it "tajpst"?)

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

It's clearly intended to be typist, an English word. It's spelled tipst/taipst.

The y sound is ambiguous without a known pronunciation (tryst is pronounced trist not traist)

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, I pronounce it differently and now I'm a bit more paranoid.

It's like when I called LaTeX latex and my friend burst out laughing.

Another hard CS problem dropped: pronouncing project names.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

Is it not pronounced /leiteks/?

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Or people who think nginx is pronounced engine rather than en-jynx...like hijinks 😱

I also thought latex was latex and I tell you what, I have no plan to correct that error. Because it's very clearly not an error. It's latex. I would also accept Le têx in a super french accent :)

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Worth pointing out it could be fully remote, but France or Germany residence is required. From what I heard it's an accounting issue for them, explained as each country needs their own accounting scheme, which, as an EU citizen, seems like a skill issue to me.

it is a skill issue

[–] KillTheMule@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Man, I'd love that, if only the pay was better... but than again, if the pay was better I'd be even less qualified. But typst is awesome, all the best wishes for the team including the new hire :)

[–] rglullis 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

57k€ for someone with Rust experience?!

Maybe that "Rewriting things in Rust is just to get rid of old people that can command high salaries" LinkedIn Lunatic was right after all...

[–] Aras@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago

In addition to the high likelihood that they are asking for an advanced junior dev "Picking between an Arc<T>, a Box<T>, and an &T is second nature to you." (Not that advanced of a skill), even if they have a closed source webapp, they are still predominantly open source (that position is for that part), they don't have much money. For that it's not great, but not horrible either.

[–] Giooschi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While they don't write it explicitly I think they're looking for a good junior developer, given that:

  • they are not asking for Rust work experience, instead for good Rust knowledge and experience with open source development, both of which you can obtain on your own if you're a competent student

    • but also, is there even anyone that has experience in Rust and compiler/interpreter/typesetting development and is looking for a job? If they did require that almost nobody would qualify and the cycle of "I don't have experience for applying to this job to get experience" would continue
  • 57k€ is not a bad salary for a junior developer in Europe

  • the two founders have graduated recently (~3 years ago) and have been working on Typst since then (their master thesis was on creating Typst itself), so it's likely they are looking for someone like them.

[–] rglullis 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Once upon a time, a "meaningful wage" was something that would allow you to raise a family of 4 while living a comfortable middle class standard of living.

57k€ gross salary in Berlin amounts to ~3360€ per month net income. Rent alone will eat 30-40% of that.

You can survive on that salary, which is more than most people are managing to do nowadays. But to think that someone with such specialized competency should expect a "not bad" salary shows a pretty sad state of affairs.

[–] BatmanAoD@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Rent eating 30-40% of your income is extremely normal, isn't it? Or is that only true in the US (where it has recently become much more than that for many people)?

[–] rglullis 1 points 1 hour ago

You missed the last paragraph, didn't you?

I don't know about you, but I don't think we should accept to be working for less or to accept a lower standard of living just because so many people have it worse.

As long as your work is:

  • honest
  • ethical
  • providing real value to whoever is paying for it
  • not pushing externalities for others

Then "what is normal" should have no bearing in this.

[–] blazebra@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

It makes sense if they hire middles, not seniors

[–] deur@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol what a weird ass conspiracy theory take to waste my time reading

[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their making a valid point though in this context

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

They're claiming this being representative of the rust space and that rust is being pushed to drive out expense seniors. You think that's a valid point to make?

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Not unreasonable in Germany but it's a weirdly narrow band. €57-61k?

[–] xav@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I would love that job but I can find rust jobs for twice that salary ...

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Europe, not in cryptobullshit? Find me one.

[–] xav@programming.dev -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Flipper@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's a German thing. We've got a male and female form for pretty much all jobs. However it's not allowed to discriminate against gender. So pretty much all job listings have mwd for ~~men white Deutsch (german)~~ men women diverse with only the male form.

Because an international audience wouldn't understand it, they posted it as all genders.

As an added bonus it keeps Americans away.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an enby that's considering fleeing the USA, I'd note that it only discourages the most awful Americans. XD

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's some interest in attracting non-awful people from the US. Get a bit of a brain drain going from there:)

[–] knightly@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm very interested, and anxiously awaiting my passport.

Never tried changing my name or gender marker but I'm still worried they'll make up some excuse to deny me anyway.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

Excuse: "Who would want leave America? Is such perfect country! Back to asbestos mines with you!"

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

Ah makes sense, thanks.