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Like... I don't know what's the point. Eat heathy, and live a long life? Jesus christ, who has the energy for that?

Just eat whatever. Drink Sodas. Die. Who cares. There's probably gonna be a global recession, or global great depression. Everyone around me is toxic. People in my country is toxic. The government is toxic. Why even live that long? Maybe my next incarnation will be better.

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[–] klemptor@startrek.website 9 points 2 hours ago

Becoming healthy is tough and can suck. But being healthy is its own reward. I really enjoy eating clean, lifting weights, going on hikes in nature, etc. You can find joy in life through healthy living. YMMV if you don't have the right attitude though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

Just the opposite.

With the potential of medical expenses rising, medication costs going up, insurance becoming shittier (if you'll be able to afford it at all), staying healthy to continue to earn a paycheck (that is a depressing phrase), the potential of wide spread violence, I think its imperative to be as healthy and strong as you can be.

You may also find yourself in a position where you're the only one you can count on and if you are sickly, and weak then it will make things that much worse. Or you may find yourself in a position to help someone that has less ability to move and you'll need to be in good health for their sake.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 17 points 5 hours ago

As someone who is handicapped through no fault of my own, it fills me with sorrow that you feel this way. Self-harm through neglect is no way to live.

My handicap initially left me with no way to walk for nearly 2 years. No doctor would touch my case. My kid literally could not hug me. I was dependent on so many people during that time and could barely take care of anyone else.

I cannot tell you what to do.. but I'm probably not going to live very long anyway (thank you, genetics!), so I'd like to encourage you to find purpose. I found my purpose in creation by sewing, and it brings me overwhelming joy. My goal is to continue creating things to spread that joy to others.

If that doesn't convince you, please know this: there are evil, shitty people in power out there who revel in your self-destruction and actively want you to destroy yourself. Please do not let them win. Continue to do your best in order to spite them and help people who aren't so fortunate.

[–] Tigrafale@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 hours ago

Being healthy improves your mood. Might as well be happy for whatever time we have left.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

Yup. Almost succeeded in having a stroke. It was caught. Better luck next time I suppose.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 36 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Spoken like a very young person. The problem is not as much the dying as what comes before it. Most people don't just drop dead. For most unhealthy people, it is years and years of suffering from various ailments as soon as you get to a certain age.

For most unhealthy people, it is years and years of suffering from various ailments as soon as you get to a certain age.

I'll execute plan B: KMS 🙃

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 108 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

What's worse than living in a dystopia? Living in a dystopia with a major medical issue.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

What's worse than living in ,~~a dystopia~~ the US? Living in ~~a dystopia~~ the US with a major medical issue.

As someone with one, I concur.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why did you cross out what he wrote then write the same thing?

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

Synonyms are fun.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

I know a fascist dystopia isn't quite the same thing, (except in HL2, where you get both), but the thing going through my mind is "rule #1: cardio" from Zombieland.

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[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Maybe just try to stay reasonably healthy to annoy them. Eating crap leads to obesity and other health issues which make you weak, unhappy, dependent, isolated and (if you live in the US) also poor. Don't let them win by making it easier for them to have power over you.

[–] horse@feddit.org 20 points 9 hours ago

Trust me. Being healthy feels great. In my early twenties I used to do all the drugs, smoked and drank every day. I didn't have any obvious health issues, but I can tell you now, that being fit and healthy feels so much better. I used to feel pretty miserable, but now I feel like I can do anything. Self care is important for self love. You can still be happy, even with all the shit going on, but you need to look after yourself.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago

Take it from someone who agreed with you 30 years ago: the health you ignore today will only cause you more pain, more stress, and more cost down the road. Even if you don't live a long life, what life you do live will be a lot harder to enjoy if you're not healthy.

[–] earlgrey0@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 hours ago

I can’t disagree that things are shit, but that’s not a reason to treat yourself like shit. Even if you don’t have a long life, going to the grave with tense af shoulders isn’t comfortable either. If you’re able, stretching and walking in the sunshine will at least add some comfort. Nothing is good but that’s no excuse to be an accelerationist to destroy your body.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I've started running and hiking a lot more recently, and while it might be ultimately meaningless, it does a lot to help my mental health and it just feels good.

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

Also drastically improved overall energy levels all day for me.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 26 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe my next incarnation will be better.

If I have to live a whole 'nother life after this one, I'm gonna be pissed.

[–] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

For real if the tunnel closes and I wake up as a baby I'm gonna wrap the umbilical around my neck and then spin around a few times.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

The mythology of how it is supposed to work is that you get a mindwipe before the reincarnation.

And who said anything about being human again? You could also end up a roach that gets squished, then reborn as some insect that gets eaten, then reborn as a pet that gets abused... etc...

So yea, thanks Buddhists, I'm feeling wonderful 🫠 (sarcasm)

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds like it is good to kill insects and animal because we are helping their soul go through their reincarnation queue faster and eventually come back as human.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

New Religion: Fascist-Buddhism

Goal: Genocide every other living creature to attain Human Dominance over the planet, in order to ensure every incarnation is in a human body. Wait, but aliens might exist. Therefore, it is our duty to eliminate all other species, throughout the entire universe. Heil Buddha!

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Wow you have solved the reincarnation puzzle! If we have just humans in the universe after eliminating every other living thing (except the good bacteria we need in our intestines), we will keep reincarnating back as mostly humans after a short stint in someone bowels !

[–] Elaine@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Bahaha! First thought is something goes wrong during the mind-wipe and now it’s your conscious inside a minuscule bacteria body cruising through someone else’s poop machine. I think I would try to rally my bacterial brethren to violence.

[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the whole point. Reincarnation is not meant to be a positive, it's a nightmare that you have to escape. That's what 'nirvana' is, reaching a point where you successful escape the reincarnation cycle and get to have oblivion.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I make a huge sacrifice and eat meat so that my fellow suffering souls can move along their reincarnation queue as quickly as possible, into the next animal.

[–] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago

Ngl I think being a bird for one reset could be fun. I wanna experience flight.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

My brother just had his prostate removed, can't eat or leave his apartment for a week, and he'll probably never have a full-on erection again. My wife had to do dialysis three days a week, which left her weak and ruined after every session. A friend of mine is in pain 24/7, and has been for decades.

I am the luckiest fucker on earth, to have good health, and I've never done a damned thing to deserve it. For 50 years I ate almost nothing but crap food, and I'm flabby and never exercise.

Ain't no justice in this life. Ain't much life if you don't have your health.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Sounds like warren buffet, whose health conscious ex-wife died and Warren is still alive drinking coca-cola, eating McD breakfast and steaks.

I think genetically some people are blessed with a body that is just very good at repairing the damage (maintenance) from so called unhealthy food.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago

I disagree 100%.

If you're an American, in this health care system, you've got to be minding your health as much as possible. It can get much, much, much worse.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

All unhealthy stuff doesn't taste good anymore though. The fun of getting drunk doesn't compensate for how hangovers are worse and longer. Cigarettes taste like ass and don't give me the kick I used to get. The fuck you mean, "just eat whatever", the slop us Americans make ain't worth shoving into my mouth.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You sound like you would enjoy the book, The Limits to Growth and its progress checking updates. The models suggest we're in for a very bad time by 2040. The runup seems to have already begun. The neat thing is that the book doesn't even include climate related catastrophe. They're just bonus add on.

[–] disgrunty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Author name, please?

[–] drinkwaterkin@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I can think of some things. The first is that there's a real chance that, if you are living an unhealthy lifestyle, it is likely actively fueling the depressed-sounding state of mind you seem to be in. I know when things seem hopeless it's hard to want to try, but it's the successes in small decisions like that which can help us claw our way out of these pits.

The next is that relying on the "next incarnation" is wishful thinking that, I think there is a stronger case to be made that it's more likely to be disappointing than it is an improvement. We don't know how many realities there are, we don't know how many of them we would ever see (or if we could ever see others) after death, or whether or not there is anything of "us" after death to experience anything in the future. But if we're seeing the one world we do know is there, getting worse, then whatever else there is or what we can experience, we now know the total amount of them has gotten worse by this much. Put into more simple terms, we lay in the bed we make. What if you reincarnate/rebirth into a factory-farmed cow for example? There's only one sure-fire way to reduce the odds of that happening - making the choices that lead to fewer factory farmed cows coming into existence.

Death is not an escape. There is no escape. The only way out is through.

Then the other thing that has fueled some of my own decisions, is that we promote what we do, to others. If I were to smoke cigarettes for example, I would be making it more likely that those in my life, the people I care about, would be more likely to also start smoking. From that point of view, literally every choice we make has consequences that probably shouldn't be taken lightly.

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 5 points 9 hours ago

I admire you for saying what you think. Most of people don't do that and they hide their thoughts fearing "dislikes" . That's why I'm against the upvote down vote system, minority is important too.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 11 hours ago

The problem is that humans tend to be adaptable and resilient. Treating yourself like crap probably won't kill you anytime soon. But a heart attack will make you miserable for the rest of your life.

I don't mean miserable as in you wish you'd never met her let alone married her. I mean miserable as in you can't sit up anymore because of the vertigo, and you can't lay down anymore because it hurts to cough.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

I care about my health but I also can’t wrap my head around being old

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve absolutely have been stress eating. And I’m supposed to be having a friendly competition with my best friend to lose 20 pounds. She is stress eating too. Neither is winning right now.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

you aren't losing, either.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I do but I can't afford it. So I ignore it. I have a lot of shit I would get looked at if I could. Like some dort of pinched nerve feeling in my abdomen that makes my right boi holler. Or my teeth. Or my back. I'd honestly go for regular checkups if I could.

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[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't really a question, but I'll respond with my experience.

As a kid I had a mother that was incredibly health conscious. She always fed me "alternative" foods with strong flavors. It instilled a hatred for health foods in me, but it also changed my taste buds to have a particular distaste for sweet foods.

I am now in my 30s. I still eat healthy. I don't binge eat. I stay away from overly salty foods. And guess what. My health is still a mess. I get what feels like food poisoning all the time. A lot of foods still make me sick.

At some point you need to realize that eating healthy is not always a solution. Healthy foods do not work for everybody, whether it be a severe dislike of the taste or allergies to the additives that are frequently required to make health food taste good. I have begun thinking it is better to have too many nutrients than not enough. It is better to drink a lot of juice loaded with sugar than it is to be dehydrated.

I would rather live a happy life for 40 years than an unhappy one for 80, especially given the current direction of politics and the fact I am now 50% microplastics.

In the end, you need to find out what works best for you and what makes you the happiest version of yourself.

[–] drinkwaterkin@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You sure you're not just eating poorly and thinking you're eating healthy? There's a significant amount of misinformation in nutrition, on par with climate denialism.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There are also plenty of reasons “healthy” foods might absolutely fuck with your health, even if you’re not eating a ridiculous amount of them. For example whole wheat is a perfectly fine food to have in your diet, unless you have celiac disease and don’t realize it yet.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 6 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

There is no incarnation, this is the only life you have and it's up to you to make is as good as you can. Externalizing and blaming others for everything does not get you far.

There is no afterlife, no nirvana, no reincarnation, you just sense to exist. Until then make an impression on the universe.

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[–] guy@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago

Well with the climate wars coming I want to be in peak shape to trample everyone else down and take my place as a warlord over as much territory as possible. Can't do that if you're out of shape

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