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A senior executive at the Social Security Administration was physically dragged from his office this week after clashing with DOGE, according to The Washington Post.

Greg Pearre, a career civil servant who led an IT team working on the agency’s data systems, was removed over his opposition to a DOGE plan to cut off immigrants from key financial services, three people told the Post.

The scheme cooked up by Elon Musk’s DOGE squad falsely lists thousands of migrants as dead in a Social Security database known as the “death master file.”

Being entered into the death database cuts a person off from crucial financial services, like the ability to receive government benefits and access a bank account or credit card.

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[–] stormdahl@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

I'm sorry but "goons" will never not be a hilarious word.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 236 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sounds like a great lawsuit.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 74 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I understand they’re handing out pardons like candy these days.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 98 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can't pardon a lawsuit. Lawsuits are civil; pardons are for criminal cases. Those staffers could be bankrupted, which would be hilarious.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Elon will just pay the settlement for them with $DOGE or $TRUMP. Monetary punishment is not a deterrent for anyone in the current administration.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn't mean people shouldn't still sue and bleed that fuck dry like he's bleeding everyone else.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

Keep suing it until the rest of the shit bags cut the line, turn on them, and leave them for dead. Like Giuliani

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Elon will just pay the settlement for them with $DOGE or $TRUMP.

Or he just won't. What's anyone going to do about it?

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

We just pardoned a corporation.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Correct. For criminal acts. As Mitt Romney said, "Corporations are people, my friend." (Yes, I know corporate personhood makes no sense, but this is the messed up world we live in.)

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Christ, first it was politely holding up paddles, now it's a fucking lawsuit

We are BEYOND all that shit my dudes.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 182 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The Daily Beast is really burying the actual story with that headline. The article is about Musk declaring alive people “dead” in a federal database. A database that is referenced by the whole world.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Possibly because that story's already been out for a few days

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the rest of the world will stop trusting the US's word about the status of anything. The boy who cried wolf has contracted rabies.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 178 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Fun fact, this is "assault" and the guy has a wonderful civil case.

Fun fact #2: civil cases are not criminal cases and are not subject to pardons.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 111 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Eventually someone is going to shoot some DOGE agents dead and I won't be mad.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago

He who saves his Country does not violate any Law

Not guilty

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It should have happened at the beginning, when they first showed up, and started making demands in the lobby. They were an unauthorized force of illegal pirates, trying to access classified systems. They should have been gunned down the moment they tried to force their way past the front desk.

Then they "authorized" their existence, and now they have authority to go anywhere they want.

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[–] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

DOGE is a terrorist group, don't fall for the agent narrative/propaganda.

[–] ghostface@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Didn't Luigi have a brother???

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If anyone, especially someone for DOGE, makes physical contact with me in a threatening manner, I'm breaking faces. Self defense is legal, these aren't cops, and that is assault. I'm also disgusted that coworkers didn't help out. Restrain the attackers, have them arrested. The president can only pardon federal crimes but I'm sure some was some illegally at the local level.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That’s what is making me anxious is that people stood by and let this happen. Doesn’t give me hope for any sort of actual resistance when push comes to shove here.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 46 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It might be because people don't do well in a crisis and tend to seek out the normal. Like grabbing your luggage in a burning plane, or standing around in a medical situation. How to fix this? The immediate one is to have someone take charge and give instruction to others. For example in the medical example, you don't ask for help, you point at people and give them a duty, like calling 9-1-1 or getting something to help the victim. They'll do it, they just needed direction because their brain is stuck.

More importantly in this case, we need resistance and protesting to become a normal thing that people see and are exposed to. Then when they get into a situation where a reaction is needed, they'll have something to fall back on what to do and how to act. For most people they're still stuck in the "get back to normal" mode and hoping that things will get better if they just wait it out.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is true. People are bad at crisis and it's not something a set of skills you can easily practice. I do think some hobbies probably help- some stressful video games, some sports and sporting-like things like paintball- but on the whole a lot of people live pretty simple lives where the most surprising, stressful, thing to happen is they almost burned their microwave popcorn. Nothing wrong with that, but sometimes it leads to disappointing behavior

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Buy guns. Also, read manuals on improvised explosives and guerilla tactics. You can do this at your local library for free.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

You can buy guns at the library?? Wow, libraries really are amazing places!

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Self defense is legal, these aren’t cops, and that is assault.

lol

These are the fucking brownshirts, good luck with that.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why arent they being charged with assault?

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Tell me more about how DOGE isn't actually making the decisions in any department

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we totally have a problem with dead people wrongly receiving benefits, then Musk's logic is we should intentionally categorize people incorrectly as dead to counteract that? Rather than ensuring the database is accurate?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Are you questioning the methods of the worlds most brilliant engineer!?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago

America has already constructed such an effective social murder state that you can pretty readily enact a final solution simply by cutting people off from financial supports.

The status quo is the system unpersons and kills you by neglect if you can't make rent. This development is an escalation for sure, but it's just the mask slipping, the senseless cruelty has been there all along.

Be outraged at this, but also please get involved helping people who are uhoused where you live, with money, food, supplies, whatever you can.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every one of those goons has names, and individually decided to go along with what they knew was wrong.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago

Idkgaf if they knew or not but if that helps yall sleep go nuts

I say we hack the shit out of them indiscriminately in retribution

Greg Pearre is the only US federal worker with a spine, sounds like.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine hating the poor this much

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