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Sadly any substances related to showering are percieved as dangerous by the stereotypical reddit mod. :D

I think some mods are overly jumpy with chemistry type questions because uninformed morons will confidently answer the wrong thing and the mods are afraid it will get someone hurt. That or the subs in question just aren't geared for this kind of Q&A. You'd probably get better responses from a chemistry subreddit.

Scent compounds being potentially hazardous to some minor degree in their super concentrated form isn't a huge issue, because that's not how they're going to be experienced and it's hard to find anything that isn't harmful in some quantity. The alchemist Paracelsus, who pioneered evidence backed approaches to pharmaceutical medicine wrote the old adage "The dose makes the poison." Even water can kill you if you drink too much of it all at once, and pure oxygen is an extremely dangerous substance even though we need it to breathe.

That said, I happen to know a bit about chemistry and just did a bit of reading. It looks like rose oil comes in two forms - one produced by steam distillation, and one produced by solvent extraction. The one produced via solvent extraction is more common, more concentrated, and according to Safety Data Sheets (SDS) I was able to find, has more potential health hazards associated with it. The other form, known as Rose Otto, is produced via steam distillation and is less concentrated. This means you will need more and will need to adjust your formulation, but according to the SDS this is a pretty safe substance. If your concern is potential hazards of making your soap during manufacturing, then that may be a better option I guess. I still think that it's fine to use substances that are toxic in quantities that will never make it into the final product.

Loving the reddit hate train here but to answer your question, there doesn't appear to be any non aqua toxic rose fragrances. Even rose water can be aqua toxic. This is due to the fact that geraniol (the compound primarily responsible for a roses' scent) is acutely toxic to aquatic life. Have you considered other light, floral scents OP?

It's all just bots masturbating other bots over there.

If you have ever posted something vaguely critical of Trump, Elmo or nazis in another sub, then you may well have bots automatically remove your posts and comments on other subs

It turns out that there are plenty of people who are perfectly OK with nazis across many subreddits out there

Reddit has gone to shit

They may have a rule to delete any mention of essential oils automatically. Or they deleted due to the criticism of it. Hard to know which way any sub might swing.

Given the trend of recent posts in here. I'm going to guess that the word "toxic" triggered the automod.

We left Reddit because of the drama. Dont bring it over here. Instead, just place your question on lemmy

Who knows? This is Lemmy

Yup, just get the hell off Reddit. And Twitter. Both of those cess pools.

I deleted my Reddit account of, was it 11 years? More? Anyway, sometimes I miss being able to comment there whenever I come across someone kind, or some idiot. But then I think, boy, morally, I feel better not partaking. Lemmy is the future for now. I'll abstain from the cancer.

Reddit doesn't need you. Use to be a place for small communities to collaborate. Now its focusing all it's efforts on being a proprietor and distributor of information. Any function those small communities serve is not important anymore because their user base is so large and entrenched the only thing that can sink them is gross mismanagement. As we saw with Twitter, even then, the road to broke is long and spiraling.

If it is any consolation -- It was most likely a robot.

Like 99% of large reddits are almost entirely moderated by a modbot, and the modbot is stupider than your average LLM assistant (and LLM assistants aren't very smart), while also being extremely strict.

Aleppo soap? It's made of olive oil and lye. As simple as it gets. Probably not good for aquatic life but better than most I would belive. It's got a distinctive scent, at first I didn't like it but it grows in you. Done wonders for my hair and skin.

On fragrange, zerowaste and sustainability.

/r/soapmaking might have some advice. There is a lemmy equivalent !soapmaking@sh.itjust.works but it doesn't look very active.

The post got deleted by mods in a manner of minutes.

I've always struggled with Reddit's arcane rules. I rarely know why my stuff is deleted. shrugs I don't really post there anymore, just lurk.

i got shadowbanned recently, just from a simple comment removal from a mod. but the reddit-wide filters immediately banned people, if thier posts gets removed.

I was making the most innocuous comments in Reddit and getting banned. I finally gave up and here I am. #RedditRefugee

Just fyi, most people came here to get rid of reddit. There are a few communities that revolve around reddit for those with nostalgia. Might be the best plae to ask as much as this community is about asking questions.

If have I had to guess... a combination of well meaning rules built up over time that no one actually thought out, chronically online weirdos corrupted by the little bit of power afforded by moderating (which seems common in online communities) and cabals of state actors who moderate multiple subreddits in order to control and direct the narrative.

On the other hand, with how popular reddit has become and with how many bots are out there, it might be worse without the rules.

Just look at the subscriber count of those subreddits. Try to moderate that.

could you use embedded flower petals?

Fuck reddit

In general, Reddit has made the move that all big name old social media have made (except maybe like Snapchat? I can’t think of any other exceptions) and kowtowed to corporate advertiser money, rightwing misinformation and bigotry, and the egos of oligarchs such as Elon Musk. This is essentially done to make the fat cats in the corporation richer.

I was able to find your deleted Reddit post [EDIT: understanding now that you were referring to posts across multiple subs]. My best good faith guess [for r/frangrance] is that the mods may have considered it to be within the scope of the “No medical advice or health questions” sub rule? Navigating to even find the sub rules was difficult since the mods have attached them via a link that immediately redirects to an account sign-up page. My workaround to even read the rules was to copy the link and change the “www” to “old” and it worked.

[EDIT, continued: For r/zerowaste, the only good faith issue I can see — and it’s a stretch — is the verb tense of “[Crafting] Posts must be something that you have made yourself.” Since you haven’t yet made the fragrance in full, maybe they don’t allow WIPs or for others to help with WIPs?

I don’t see anything with r/sustainability’s rules that would apply. They do have a “No Surveys” rule but there are other posts that do solicit input and advice, so that apparently doesn’t apply to your post.]

You might find Lemmings who are happy to help with your fragrance situation on any of these communities:

https://lemmy.world/c/askscience

https://lemmy.world/c/science

https://aussie.zone/c/environment

https://mander.xyz/c/science

Reddit Mod:

Uh oh... You showed empathy to animal life.

Deleted for being Woke!

Reddit is owned and operated by assholes. Don't even try to use it.

More commonplace than you think.

Reddit is being moderated by an AI now

Low karma or account too new.

So cringe tbh. I was depressed and wanted to vent, they fucking automod-deleted my post because "karma too low", like bitch, why did you think I'm making a throwaway?

Subs be deleting shit left and right lately, it's becoming unusable

Lot of it is bots, but lot of it is also shit mods. And lazy mods letting the bot do shit without any review.