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The suspect in the Florida State University shooter, who faces first degree murder charges for killing two and injuring five on Thursday was a member of Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point USA, a fascist youth group around the Republican Party, and is a registered Republican voter in Florida. The 20-year-old suspect, Phoenix Ikner, is the stepson of Leon County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Jessica Ikner, who has been with the department for 18 years.

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[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

This one of the home grown terrorists I hear about? Or does this not qualify?

/s just in case

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 127 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I notice they didn’t charge him with terrorism and the death penalty.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Because he didn't hit a Tesla.

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 72 points 14 hours ago
[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 64 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SourGumGum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Reality not just shooters:

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 52 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Fascist deeply embedded in police community? That’s every cop.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)
[–] sittinonatoilet@sopuli.xyz 12 points 11 hours ago

Ikner cited this “tragic event” in 2015 when he went to court to change his name from Christian Gunnar Eriksen.

Changing your name is so woke!

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 236 points 17 hours ago

It's always the ones you most suspect.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 154 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

When news of the shooting broke I was with my dad who said "the shooter was probably radical Democrat since they are the violent ones". FoxRot is real and dangerous.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Back in the old days of Fark, I remember there used to be a flowchart of people's reactions to mass shootings:

  • Mass shooting happens
  • initial reaction: guy is a terrorist Muslim and we need to bomb some country in the middle east.
  • news shows it's a white guy
  • "Oh my...how sad. He must have been really struggling."

I feel like the right has replaced the second step with whatever out group they are trying to target.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, i haven't heard anyone mention Fark in ages! I spent a lot of time there before Digg...

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 53 points 16 hours ago

Magats are lost causes and they’ll never be functioning members of society in any meaningful way again. They are class traitors who want to watch the world burn

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[–] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 166 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

No terrorism charge? That's crazy. /s

[–] gargolito@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

It's a white thing.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 125 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

It’s not like he shot a CEO or something…

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 46 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Or spray painted a cybertruck...

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago

Or wasn't white.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 17 hours ago

Just another day in America

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 12 hours ago

It’s not like he vandalized a car or something…

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 36 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The terrorism charge only takes place when the victims exceed a certain income level.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 11 points 14 hours ago

Or targets the business of a right wing billionaire

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 57 points 17 hours ago

Turning Point USA a designated terrorist group? Yes please.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 48 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

He was at the center of a custody battle since he was a toddler, with his father alleging his mother neglected and abused him.

Kind of have to wonder which parent was actually abusing or neglecting the kid, seeing as all this happened under his father's roof.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

TBH that sucks for the kid.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 13 hours ago

Yup. Kids always pay the price for their parent's fuck-ups.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Why did they say "fascist" twice?

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago

To cover both sides of his face.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 76 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

this isn’t a crime that would have been prevented by the gun control measures advocated by the Democrats, since none of the proposals involve disarming the police

Just had to get that in there, you fucking donkeys.

I saw some of these guys at the protest on Saturday. Someone had a microphone and spent, no lie, about 2/3rds of the time they had the mic aiming vicious criticism at the Democrats. Not "both sides," not the whole system (that was the remaining 1/3rd), but the Democrats specifically. I thought about making a bigger post about it but I'm not even sure what to say about it. I think there was 0 criticism at all leveled at the Trump administration or anything that they were doing.

Great job guys

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 72 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Disarming the police does sound like an excellent idea. Police cause more problems than they solve with firearms.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I work in 911 dispatch, a lot of my coworkers are predictably bootlickers.

I can't even tell you how many calls we get all day everyday where we're all just left scratching our head going "Why did you call 911,about this? This isn't a police issue." But since usually the only tool we have in our toolbox is police, that's what we end up having to send.

But they'll balk at any suggestion that maybe our police don't need a new armored truck and a new police station, and whatever other stupid shit they're spending tax dollars on, and instead maybe we should spend that money to beef up our mental health services, public works, homeless outreach, animal control, code enforcement, and other services that we could be providing instead of just sending police out to deal with non-police issues.

Luckily, my local police are pretty good as far as police go, not too trigger happy, generally make a decent effort to handle mental health issues carefully, they usually manage to not make things significantly worse, though they often don't do much to improve the situation either.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

they usually manage to not make things significantly worse, though they often don’t do much to improve the situation either.

I think even with the best of intentions, if two people with guns show up to some sort of crisis, it's easy to see how that might be, like, the right vibe at the moment.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's definitely the wrong vibe a lot of times, but it's also a weird balancing act.

I like to think my county has our shit together about as well as anywhere in the country (which is admittedly a fairly low bar) We do have some other resources available to us that we try to make use of, like a mobile crisis team (which is technically some sort of private non profit entity that receives county funding and works with us and our police departmens very closely, but it's not something that we can directly dispatch in the same way we can send police/fire/EMS)

And they do a lot of good, they go out and respond to calls from people who need their assistance, and often handle things just fine on their own.

But a lot of times we find ourselves getting calls from those teams because they went out to make contact with someone, who they spoke with and who requested their assistance, but started getting aggressive so they need police to assist them.

And I've been on the phone with a lot of situations that have taken some crazy turns, where it starts out sounding like a totally boring, routine call for an officer to come out and take a report or address some minor issue, and suddenly everyone is yelling, punches are being thrown, something is on fire, etc.

So in the interest of safety, a lot of non-police calls probably should still have police respond as well, they just need to strike a happy balance where they're waiting outside or something, ready to bust in if needed, but otherwise they're not directly involving themselves in the situation.

But overall, a whole lot of my calls would probably be best resolved if we could force people to sit down with a middle school guidance counselor and learn how to take a deep breath, count to 10, use their inside voices, and listen to each other.

[–] DarkShaggy@lemmy.world 46 points 17 hours ago

As the saying goes, if you have a problem and you call the police you now have 2 problems.

[–] dota__2@lemmy.world 30 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

as always, "no way to prevent this" says only country that this happens.

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[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I hate how the narrative now is:

Yeah the republicans are bad, but the democrats didn't stop them from doing the bad in the most perfect way so who's the real bad guy?

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 37 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

The mom is still with the sheriff office after her kid used her issued weapon to murder people? That seems like an immediate resignation type of event, with potential for criminal negligence charges down the road.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 16 points 14 hours ago

I'm from Tallahassee and small correction. It was her former service weapon that she purchased from the department after it was decommissioned. It was her personal firearm.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Cops are so fucking careless with guns it’s unbelievable. Any time you hear of an accidental discharge, it was the cops negligence and they’re lying about it because Glocks do not misfire without user error

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 30 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They leave them unattended in public bathrooms so often that my hospital has a protocol for what to do if we find one

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

jfc, I’ve heard about them doing that but I didn’t realize it was that bad. Fucking morons

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 35 points 17 hours ago

... but I repeat myself.

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