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[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 67 points 13 hours ago

One of the best posts to ever appear on this community/on this topic

10/10

[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 110 points 18 hours ago (28 children)

That sign usually means no entry for bikes so I was confused for a moment

[–] three20three@lemmy.world 32 points 12 hours ago

Also fits because tourists would ignore most posted signs.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 47 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Don't signs usually have a line through it when it means "no", or is that just american signage?

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 134 points 14 hours ago (5 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

You must pay the rent

I can't pay the rent

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 40 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

instructions unclear, the banana is up my ass

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You missed the "Caution: A Bannana" sign then didn't you?

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

there were three bananas before the caution sign and I slipped

[–] seekpie@lemmy.seekpie.nohost.me 25 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Also, stop signs are ~~hexagonal~~ octagonal and yield signs triangular so you could notice them even when they're not facing you.

Edit: octagon/hexagon

[–] freeman@feddit.org 5 points 5 hours ago

Or when covered in snow or if the sign is badly damaged

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 33 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] seekpie@lemmy.seekpie.nohost.me 3 points 6 hours ago

Thanks, forgot how the shapes work lol

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 19 points 10 hours ago

Red state. We can't afford the extra 2 sides.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world -3 points 6 hours ago

Thats confusing.

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This should be in drivers education in Europe

[–] sip@programming.dev 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

they are, aren't they? not with a banana ofc, but I know they are categorized based on shape and color.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 87 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

European bike lanes (like this one should probably depict) are round and solid blue with a bike depicted on them.

bike lane

In Europe, lanes, where biking is prohibited are denoted by a round white sign with a relative wide red border (circle) and a bike depicted at its center.

biking prohibited

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 69 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

if I didn't already know better, i would have interpreted these two signs to be synonymous.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Mandatory signs are road signs that are used to set the obligations of all traffic that uses a specific area of road. Most mandatory road signs are circular in shape and may use white symbols on a blue background with a white border, or black symbols on a white background with a red border, although the latter is also associated with prohibitory signs.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

i am now more confused than I was before.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Learning Vienna Convention road signs takes a few minutes for the basic principles, an hour or two for the really arcane signs such as "watch out for carriages" and "levy ahead".

The system is superior to the North American hell system by a huge margin, not least of which because it allows me to drive to Spain or Czechia without needing to study their traffic laws and learn the local language. The signs will be very similar and their meanings otherwise easy to intuit.

Now let me blow your mind: you already do this in NA. But you stopped at yield signs and stop signs. Their shape is immediately recognizable and parseable even if you don't speak English or even if they are covered in snow (that's on purpose). Now just imagine every sign is like that instead of the designers giving up and writing some text on a yellow rectangle. "Road work ahead"? Bitch, just put a schematic road worker in a red triangle instead of making me read shit at 90 km/h, this ain't book club!

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Red means stop not road work. Here orange is used for road work.

Plus some things really need text.

How would that 60 means 60 km to next town with the name.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How would that 60 means 60 km to next town with the name.

If it meant that it would have the name of the town on it.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago

Right so you can't really remove all reading from road signs

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah a / would make more intuitive.

[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Neither is more intuitive, it's just what you're used to, culturally. Europeans could equally go to America, see a white sign with black symbol and red border and remark upon learning that it indicates a bike lane 'That's just not intuitive'.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

Yeah agree.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 2 points 10 hours ago

One is for waterbikes, one is for Fancy Dress Bicycles Only

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a problem having a little line through the thing you’re not supposed to do?

/American (sorry) question

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That is used for cancelling a previous sign.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago

Ooooh how interesting!!

Thanks for the embeds as well

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In the Netherlands (where this is depicted) it's typically a white sign with black letters and a red line around it for prohibited, or blue with white text for required

So a white sign with black numbers 80 and a red line around it means prohibited to drive faster than 80, s similar sign with a biker means forbidden for bikes there. If it's a blue sign with a bike, it means bikes are required ro go here.

A line through it actually means "end of this particular prohibition"

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

...does a blue sign with a white 80 mean you must travel at least that quickly?..we have minimum speeds posted stateside, although it's not common...

[–] Honeybee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

I can only talk about the Netherlands: Round white sign with a red band, black letters: maximum speed Square blue sign with white letters, advisory speed (advisory speed < maximum speed - 20 )

There is no minimum speed (round blue sign white letters): this is for the simple reason you could technically be ticketed in the case of a traffic jam, yield sign or traffic light

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[–] docd@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago

I agree the the comic is a bit confusing but to be fair it's in black and white. A red border would mean no entry but a completely blue background would be only bikes allowed.

It makes sense to think that they are car owners that in their regular life wouldn't tolerate bikes but on holidays find it great.

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