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[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

That's basically what I've been saying ever since the switch 2 announcement, I'm glad I can just copy the Sources from this article to support my intuition. Thank you, Superjoost!

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

What AAA title is worth $80? The most time I spend gaming is in a 10 year old shooter, and an indie survival game. Both of which I bought for <$20.

[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 2 points 25 minutes ago

KCD2 Is pretty damn amazing.

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

One you can spend at least 40 enjoyable hours on, I’d say

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'd say GTA VI would likely earn that for me. I'll probably spend over 80 hours on that.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

There's plenty of jrpgs half that price point with twice the length though. Heck, even the previous GTAs have at least that length for a cheaper price, and are occasionally even cheaper now. Be patient and you'll likely even get the game given away for free.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 hours ago

Length =/= quality. JRPGs specially love their bloat.

[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Why even suggest a different genre when the man said he will enjoy it?

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm lucky enough to own literally thousands of games. Most of which I get at a deep discount. Games like GTA and Red Dead are usually an exception where I'll play on day one. Even though Rockstar tends to milk a title long after a release, the attention to detail is worth the price to me. I'll still check reviews first however.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 26 points 10 hours ago

I have 170 games in my backlog and the summer sale is coming. I ain't spending 80 bucks on one video game.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

I made a rule that I can't spend over $10 on a game until I've played through my entire backlog. I haven't bought a game over $10 in 10 years and I've spent $6k on Steam since I started using it.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Nintendo fans gonna ~~beg daddy for another round of the belt~~ appreciate Nintendo’s innovation

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And Microsoft and the other "tRiPlE A" and "QuAdRuPlE A" publishers think they can ride on daddy Ninty's coattails.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The difference being that Nintendo makes unbelievable amounts of money because Nintendo fanboys won’t stop opening up their wallets. Microsoft doesn’t have that kind of loyalty or revenue (and you can bet Sony is going to join the club before the year is out).

[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm sure "fanboys" is true to some extent but their target audience is children and casual gamers.

There are so many people that don't play games beyond Mario kart, animal crossing, party games, etc

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

according to a recent U.S. survey conducted by Nintendo, most Switch purchases are being made by "male consumers in their 20s and early 30s."

Over 60,000 people replied, and the results (shown below) suggest 86 percent of Switch buyers are men, with only 11 percent being identified as women.

Looking at the age of buyers, 43 percent fell into the 25-34 age group, while 20 percent slotted into the 19-24 category.

It’s driven by men 20-35

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I pirate games first before buying. Too many games become shit past the return window on Steam. I buy every game I like.

[–] adept@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

You can return games after the 2h return window. Its just that under 2h is an automated refund

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 39 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Don't pre order games. Don't buy games at full price. Support indie devs.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I will buy indie games at full price, thank you very much.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I bought Schedule 1 for the full $20 last week.

I can't stop playing. It's too fun.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago

it seems I've bought it too. Not gonna lie, after reading the description... I have no idea what I'm getting into.

[–] trashboat@midwest.social 4 points 11 hours ago

Honestly itch.io has plenty of free indie gems that can last me just as long as throwing $80 at a AAA game. I’d rather donate/tip after the fact for genuine well-crafted experiences

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

Tell the Nintendo crowd lol

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 57 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

But it still spooked Wall Street, as parent company Take-Two Interactive Software Inc.’s shares plummeted as much as 10% following the news.

I think our economy might be predicated entirely on stupid.

Also, $80 is a lot when typical people's buying power is decreasing. I think like half of americans can't tank a $500 surprise bill, and they want people to blow nearly 20% of that on a video game? Fuck off, capitalists.

[–] creamlike504@jlai.lu 35 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

We (the gaming community) say this every time, but microtransactions and lootboxes have spread like viruses because gamers are buying them.

I hate predatory pricing on principle, but whale votes count for a lot more.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 24 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Those systems are literally designed to be psychologically addictive and prey on those weakest to such tactics. It's not stupidity; it's literal brain washing via Pavlovian response.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 hours ago

Basic human psychology has been weaponized against us, and they've been getting better at it faster than we're getting better at resisting it, for decades.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think I've ever bought a microtransaction or cosmetic. I'm doing my part!

*Ok, i think I paid like $5 into warframe after 200 hours, and I used some fake money from google surveys on pokemon go, so I'm not entirely without sin.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Hey I spent a little money on Warframe. Shit's free and fun.

Octavia is my girl.

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 96 points 16 hours ago (25 children)

The amount of options isn’t the issue.

For most 25-40€ games I buy, i can get a great experience for the next 30-50 hours.

Indie games absolutely crush the statistics, where some sub-15€ roguelikes have such insane replayability, that i’ve clocked over a thousand hours into a couple. Not to mention how incredibly creative, unique, and story rich some of them are.

Meanwhile, what used to be 60€, and is now 80€+, is some “cinematic” 20fps on console slop, that you can barely get 5 hours of real gameplay out of. I don’t wanna sit there and watch a movie with an occasional A button press. Or even worse, play something like the Assassins Creed reboot, that had 500 hours of gameplay, 490 of which is just useless collectibles around the map.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 46 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Measuring games by hours has become an increasing less useful metric to me because I already have my grinding games that I can endlessly replay. When buying new games, I'd rather get something I'll really enjoy for a short playthrough than a long epic JRPG I can't bring myself to actually set aside time for - even though I do really love JRPGs.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Check out Expedition 33. It feels like a love letter to jrpg but without the time commitment.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, this game is a piece of art, really well made.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I watched the trailer and whats on steam about it, but it didn't take me in, and im curently looking for an rpg to play.

Is it really completely turn based and not that action turn based abdomination jrpgs have implemented the past years? I noticed some kind of quick time events during fights, is that optional or always active?

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[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago

!patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

There are so many options out there that asking for $80, or whatever the equivalent is, is just ridiculous. I really hope people stand up against this bulshit.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It sucks that waiting for a sale might only bring down to the original $50 new full price it used to be.

Just have to wait longer I guess.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

The amount of games on the PC is way to large to be buying right away.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I think Titanfall 2 is still on sale on steam for uh... 5 dollars.

Its got Northstar, a custom client that allows for private multiplayer servers... also works on linux, literally has its own custom proton version.

Oh and there are mods as well, guided installers, mod managers, etc, for windows and linux.

Runs great on a steam deck!

... and looks ... basically the same as a shooter from 10 years later, at least at 1280 x 800?

(its built on a custom forked version of the portal 2 source engine, so it actually runs efficiently and looks good =D)

Doesn't have a huge playerbase, but it is decent enough that you can probably find a few well populated servers, at least in NA region.

... looks like titanfall 3 got turned into an extraction shooter and then cancelled.

So anyway yeah, hilariously its time to return to tradition for enthusiasts of many old school competetive games from before the bullshit of endless battlepasses and MTX kicked into high gear... and as others have pointed out, the indie scene is full of gems.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago

Titanfall 2 has the last great FPS campaign. Nothing has come out since that’s nearly as good.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

I just like to add that it has an oft forgotten 4 player PvE coop mode. Also low on players, but not dead, and if you’re lucky enough to have some friends you can guarantee a match. And there are usually populated Northstar servers for it as well. It’s a great mode with progression and the signature combat experience in Titan and as a pilot.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There are very few games I would spend $80 on. Actually, at this point I don't buy a lot of new games to begin with, I'm mostly just grinding the same old favorites now.

But for the games I really care about, I'm willing to spend on games I know will be worth it to me. I've waited 22 years for a sequel to Kirby Air Ride and if I have to pay $80 for it, I will pay $80 for it.

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[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 8 points 14 hours ago

At garage sales books can often be found for 25 cents a piece (320 books in $80).

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