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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 minutes ago

And they mostly won't

Just saying this based off covid which came after sars2 and i remember in each time there were warning signs way WAY before and nobody really bothered.

Sure, covid may have shaken governments a bit and people maybe finally remember, but most will just let it go happen until its right around the door, to only then spring in action when its again too late

The US will end up with the highest fatality ratio than any other country and Trump will still blame Biden and Hillary's emails

[–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The article is behind a paywall. What does it say?

[–] Flashback956@feddit.nl 3 points 44 minutes ago

ChatGPT summary:

Over 40 top virologists from around the world are urgently warning about the growing threat of the H5N1 avian flu. While human-to-human transmission hasn’t been confirmed, sporadic infections in people with no known animal contact raise concerns about the virus adapting. H5N1 is now found in wild birds, livestock, and humans across all U.S. states and Canada, with over 168 million poultry culled and over 70 human cases—including one death.

The Global Virus Network (GVN) calls for stronger global action, urging governments to apply lessons from the COVID-19 pandemic. Key recommendations include:

  • Strengthening animal and human surveillance, including testing milk, wastewater, and workers.
  • Sharing genomic data rapidly.
  • Enforcing protective gear and hygiene on farms.
  • Providing self-testing for workers and healthcare access.
  • Boosting funding, especially in high-risk areas.
  • Investing in virus prediction, vaccine development, and clinical research.

Experts emphasize that early detection, community engagement, and international cooperation are crucial to preventing a potential human pandemic.

Sources:

Full article:

Leading virologists from over 40 countries are sounding the alarm over the increasing threat of H5N1 avian flu—which can cause coughing, body aches, fatigue, pneumonia, and other symptoms in humans—urging global leaders to step up with a range of measures and to use knowledge gained during the COVID pandemic.

“In the U.S. sporadic human infections with no known contact with infected animals highlight the possibility of viral adaptation for efficient human-to-human transmission,” Global Virus Network (GVN) scientists write in a commentary published this week in The Lancet Regional Health–Americas. “Concurrently, the virus continues to circulate in wild birds, backyard flocks, and hunted migratory species, further amplifying the risk to humans and domestic animals.”

The experts compel leaders to address the issue by boosting surveillance, enhancing biosecurity, and preparing for potential human-to-human viral transmission.

The authors note that more than 995 dairy cow herds and at least 70 people have been infected with H5N1, including severe cases and the first reported U.S. death. 

“Understanding the current landscape of H5N1 infections is critical for effective prevention and response,” Dr. Sten H. Vermund, chief medical officer of the GVN and dean of the USF Health College of Public Health at the University of South Florida, said in a press release. “The virus’s ability to infect both animals and humans, combined with recent genetic changes, underscores the importance of proactive surveillance and rapid response measures.”

The highly pathogenic influenza virus is now circulating in all 50 states and Canada, the virologists warn, resulting in the loss or culling of more than 168 million poultry animals in the U.S. since 2022. While human-to-human transmission is not documented, experts warn that virus mutations or the combination of two flu viruses could increase transmissibility.

The researchers made several recommendations:

  • Continuously monitoring animals, including testing milk, wastewater, and people working with infected animals, to track virus evolution that may lead to human-to human transmissibility.
  • Accelerating the sharing of genomic data among global research networks to track virus evolution and spread.
  • Using personal protective equipment and strict farm-cleaning protocols.
  • Advocating for self-administered diagnostic tests for farmworkers and health care access for frontline medical workers.
  • Providing more funding for responses, especially in high-risk regions.
  • Investing in predicting traits of avian flu viruses from genetic data.
  • Developing and rapidly administering vaccines to people and animals.
  • Conducting clinical studies on the properties of emerging virus strains, potential therapies, and vaccines.

“A robust nationwide monitoring system is essential to quickly detect and quarantine affected animals and implement preventive measures to curb further spread and human infections,” said Elyse Stachler, GVN member and a research scientist at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard. “Further, we believe it is crucial to maintain trust and stakeholder buy-in for monitoring programs, particularly from farmworkers.”

“We are advocating for community-driven strategies to ensure the successful implementation of vaccines, if necessary,” said Dr. Christian Bréchot, president emeritus of the GVN and director of the USF Health Microbiomes Institute and senior associate dean for research in global affairs in the USF Health Morsani College of Medicine. “The situation with H5N1 demands heightened vigilance and collaboration across public health sectors. Early detection and robust surveillance are critical to prevent further spread.”

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 43 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Future historians will say that Donald the dumb was a plague spreader.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 hour ago

Future historians? I like your optimism.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago

Im just worried how bad it can get. 90% fatalities to pregnant women, that high. That's not the COVID 1-2%

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 44 points 10 hours ago

Meanwhile my country's most powerful public health official: "vaccines are dangerous because they train viruses to be stronger, we should instead simply infect as many birds as possible"

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 49 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, and this time masks will be illegal.

[–] Shootingstarrz17@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They can pry them out of my cold, dead hands.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 9 hours ago

Well, I think that’s the likely scenario

[–] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 35 points 10 hours ago

Time to stop all testing immediately so that there are no cases

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 155 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Scientists: we have some good news and some bad news on the pandemic front.

Public: Gimme the good news first.

Scientists: We're going to solve the housing crisis really quickly.

X/

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 35 points 12 hours ago

That's dark. +1

[–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 70 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

In the U.S., RFK has promised to personally consume every dead bird he finds on the side of the road.

[–] lostlittletimeonthis@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That's just the worm talking, it's out for revenge

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago

It wants a mate

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 10 hours ago

I knew there had to be at least one positive trait.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Thankful JD was only into couches

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 8 points 10 hours ago

That happened before bird flu was announced tho

[–] Shootingstarrz17@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago

Don't worry, just inject bleach! It worked last time. /s

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 102 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

"Top virologists raise alarm" ..... that didn't help last time. People and government won't take notice or want to take action until we see people with blood coming out of their eyes and dying in the streets, and even then, everyone will be more worried about the economy than in the body count.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 26 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

at least worrying about the economy would be an improvement to just worrying about their personal freedom

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They'll just ask the elderly to die again

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

They wanted blue cities to die first. But somehow thought it would never get to the red places.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 16 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I need to watch 28 days later again.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

There's a movie for this. Bird flu in america, was mediocre but somehwat accurate for the death rate portrayed

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 13 points 11 hours ago

Just in time for the sequel!

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[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

Donald and HHS: A1 said fake news. This is Obama’s fault.

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 68 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

I have a buddy who is a virologist. He sends me shit all the time about bird flu. The gain of function tests on it is wild. Also, note that we have seen this shit coming since 2012

  1. Fouchier, R.A.M., et al. (2012). "Airborne transmission of influenza A/H5N1 virus between ferrets."

Published in: Science

Summary: Demonstrated that a small number of mutations could allow H5N1 to spread via respiratory droplets in ferrets.

Link: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1213362

  1. Herfst, S., et al. (2012). "Airborne transmission of influenza A/H5N1 virus between ferrets."

Published in: Science (companion to Fouchier’s work)

Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22723413/

  1. Imai, M., et al. (2012). "Experimental adaptation of an influenza H5 HA confers respiratory droplet transmission to a reassortant H5 HA/H1N1 virus in ferrets."

Published in: Nature

Summary: Kawaoka’s lab showed that reassortment of H5N1 with pandemic H1N1 genes could enable airborne spread in ferrets.

Link: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10831

  1. Zhang, Y., et al. (2013). "H5N1 hybrid viruses bearing 2009/H1N1 virus genes transmit in guinea pigs by respiratory droplet."

Published in: Science

Summary: Chinese researchers found that hybrid viruses combining H5N1 with H1N1 pandemic genes could spread between mammals.

Link: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1243362

  1. National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity (NSABB) Reports (2012).

Summary: Initially recommended redacting details of GoF studies due to bioterrorism concerns, later reversed.

Link: https://osp.od.nih.gov/biotechnology/nsabb-reports/

[–] ModestCrab@lemmy.wtf 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

2012? Bird flu been warned about since 2005 at least in my memory

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 26 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The first case was in 1959 in Scotland. The first human case was in 1996 or 1997 in China. Then around 2002, there was an outbreak in SE Asia that caused alarm then in 2005 it spread by wild birds into Europe and triggered a big WHO warning. The first gain of function tests was in 2011 and 2012. My comment was about the gain of function tests. I probably could have worded it better

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[–] ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 hours ago

This Week in Virology talks a bit about this at the 10min mark TWiV 1214: Clinical update with Dr. Daniel Griffin

Episode webpage: https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-1214/

Media file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/twiv/TWiV1214.mp3?dest-id=25528

Also worth bookmarking the CDC summary... For as long as it's up. https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Red counties first.

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 20 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thankfully the US has a president who is deeply experienced in pandemic management and bringing society together in common cause so I should manage ok. 😭

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure he's busy issuing orders and preparing a response plan (to blame Joe Biden).

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

This time it’s Obama’s fault.

[–] slowmorella@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 53 points 14 hours ago

This is literally the worst possible time for it to happen. If you think global trade and prices are fucked right now then just you wait.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

COVID2 Electric Boogaloo

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