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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is an unintended benefit to putting an obstacle between people who don't know how to use the terminal and pasting code into it.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Expanding on this, we could make it so that root must use ed(1) to edit files?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Ed is the standard text editor."

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

vi is so outdated, we use viii now. You're two versions behind!

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago

Ha! Butterflies!

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[–] crimsoncobalt@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Control+C is used to kill a process in the terminal and that shouldn't be overwritten. If it is, you'd have to create a totally separate key binding to kill a process. Seems unnecessarily complex when Control+Shift+C works just fine.

[–] hallettj@leminal.space 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The article doesn't suggest using Control+C. It talks about dedicated copy and paste key codes, and you can program your keyboard to map those codes to whatever keys you like. They suggest Fn+C.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Damage@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago

Holy shit can you guys read the article please? It's an existing standard and a dedicated keycode

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[–] elmicha@feddit.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We could use Ctrl+Insert and Shift+Insert like in the last three decades, but some of these keyboards apparently forgot about the Insert key.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Well yeah but shift insert is annoying as hell since the keys are so far apart

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I confirmed that these already supported a number of terminals plus QT and GTK. They could also be mapped to be more ergonomic with a programmable keyboard:

  • Control+Insert: Copy
  • Shift+Delete: Cut
  • Shift+Insert: Paste
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[–] Overspark@feddit.nl 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kitty has a setting that makes Ctrl-C copy text, but only if you've selected something. If you haven't it does a regular break. Best of both worlds!

[–] signofzeta@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another KiTTY user! Can you share that setting?

[–] Overspark@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Had to look it up for you. I use (in kitty.conf):

map ctrl+c copy_and_clear_or_interrupt
map ctrl+v paste_from_clipboard

Obviously you only need the first one for the copy bit but having paste as well is nice.

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Control+C is used to kill a process in the terminal and that shouldn’t be overwritten.

Agreed. The post didn't suggest that.

Seems unnecessarily complex when Control+Shift+C works just fine.

For people already using programmable keyboards global copy/paste shortcuts are a nice perk.

I spend nearly all my day in a browser or a terminal and as I use a terminal and browser that already support this, the effect is 99% complete.

[–] randy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like you may have misunderstood the article. It's talking about how support is increasing for dedicated Copy keys, and that programmable keyboards make it easy to use dedicated Copy keys. The article does not mention changing the behaviour of Ctrl-C.

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[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Come on, having a 3-key combo for such a common task is a PITA. There's a reason people have been complaining about this for decades.

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first time you accidentally type Control-C into a terminal and cancel an important process when you meant to copy some text it becomes a PITA.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. I do it pretty regularly and I've been using Linux for 20 years.

And yet people here are still saying "no biggie". It's pure status quo bias.

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[–] Lucien@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And I'm pretty sure this key combination predates copy and paste key combinations.

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[–] markstos@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My patch to add Copy/Paste keycode support to the Cosmic Terminal was merged!

https://github.com/pop-os/cosmic-term/pull/481

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who likes Rust but dislikes the look of COSMIC, are there plans to allow theming?

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Holy fucking shit. I just realized that's why Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V don't work in Micro. This has been eye opening.

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have been trying to bind ctrl c to copy in micro and alacrity, I can't find a way.

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[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been using ctrl+c for copy and ctrl+v for paste for over a decade in my linux terminal by remapping the interrupt to ctrl+x.

It's basic ergonomics and user friendliness.

I do it on all my personal devices and servers.

Nothing bad happened in those ~15 years that I've been doing that. What the fuck are you arguing about?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I might actually do that too, but not for ergonomics. I'm just going nuts with sometimes ctrl-c,. sometimes ctrl-shift-c, sometimes ctrl-ins

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, this is a nice feature of macOS (or at least iTerm 2; I don’t use the official terminal). I know CTRL-C is used to kill processes and we all have that muscle memory but I usually try to change that on my personal Linux installs because I’ve hit it by mistake before.

I used to use CTRL+INSERT for copy and SHIFT+INSERT for paste but there’s usually no insert key on laptops or even small keyboards. It’s probably time to just adapt.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

⌘C and ⌘V work in the native MacOS terminal app as well.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s the #1 thing that drives me crazy about Linux.

It seems obvious. You’ve got a Windows/Apple/Super key and a Control key. So you’d think Control would be for control characters and Windows/Apple/Super would be for application things.

I can understand Windows fucking this up, cuz the terminal experience is such a low priority. But Linux?

There’s some projects like Kinto and Toshy which try to fix it, but neither work on NixOS quite yet.

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[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 3 points 1 year ago

I still use ctrl+ins and shift+ins every now and then. I've hit ctrl+shift+c a few times while in my browser (Vivaldi) which unfortunately is bound to "create note". Ctrl+ins is a great workaround than using an extra neuron when in a terminal to also hit shift when copying.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

selection autocopy and wheel/shift ins pasting is superior to all alternatives imo

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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Centre click is a godsend though. I recently had to start using Windows again and I keep instinctively hitting it.

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[–] yaroto98@lemmy.org 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That's why we have mice copy/paste bindings on most systems too. Highlighting text auto copies, and scroll wheel click pastes. Not all do this, but many do and have for a while.

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

That’s a popular terminal feature, but I regularly get tripped up because my terminal has that behavior but my browser does not.

That’s what’s nice about a global solution.

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[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Ctrl+Ins gang rise up

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow. I haven't seen a Sun keyboard like that in .. geez forever. Whose were fun times. I was younger then.

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[–] lascapi@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago

Nice !! I like the 'old new again' effect ^^

[–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use a key remapper to give me the readline keys everywhere. Though I've used XKeysnail and xremap and they're both a bit flakey, so if anyone has better recommendations that work on X11 and Wayland, I'm all ears.

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