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[–] RobotCowboyAlien@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I haven’t seen many games from Hurts and Lamar, but I don’t see why Mahomes is even considered. He’s been so mediocre all season.

[–] FingerTampon@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Mahomes shouldn't be in the MVP race.

[–] Old-butt-new@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Feel like cousins was out playing all these guys ( although lamar been good this past month) sucks what coulda been for the guy

[–] iCE_P0W3R@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

How about CMC? Give it to an RB for a change. He’s having a hell of a year, leading the league in rushing yards and total TDs, and he’s certainly the most valuable player on one of the best teams in the league. I think most people were counting him out after his injury history in Carolina, but he’s persevered and managed to be a real threat.

[–] joemax4boxseat@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Feels like no QB should be considered the top runner. McCaffrey and Brown stand out as the non-QBs.

If it is a QB I feel like Goff is getting shafted. Outside of a thought game against Baltimore the guy has been playing great all year. If Hurts, Mahomes, and Jackson are getting consideration no reason Goff shouldn’t be in the discussion with them.

Stroud is a rookie but his name also stands out, especially with his crazy TD:INT ratio.

[–] Lilpu55yberekt69@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck it, Howell for MVP

[–] Muda_The_Useless@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It’s going to be Hurts if the eagles finish with a winning record and he doesn’t get hurt but honesty it shouldn’t be. I feel other players such as CMC who totally changes an offense, Hill/Brown for setting records, TJ or Crosby for being THE defense deserve it and I’m sure fans (or hey u/nfl you piece of garbage think of the money you’d make from the gamblers) would love to see it. To many other standouts and it’s about damn time they get their own version of the Cy young.

[–] kamekaze1024@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If a Ravens player wins it, it should be Roquan

[–] SkrtSkrt70@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

How is this not CMC’s reward to lose? On pace for 2,000 total yards, 26 total TDs, and Niners should still get a top 3 seed. In a year without a QB separating themselves from the pack I feel like that should get it.

[–] Spare_Entrance_9389@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Mahomes did lose to the Broncos

[–] DapperCam@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Allen has stats just as good as the MVP front runners, but unfortunately his team stinks.

[–] jyozefu@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If Aaron Donald couldn't win it then we can rule out all non-QB players from the MVP discussion. Nothing will ever be enough.

[–] -Narme-@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What’s crazy I don’t even consider Lamar that special compared to previous MVP candidates. His MVP season and this year don’t even compare to the likes of Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes, Warner, or Manning. You’re telling me his seasons are comparable to those guys? Give me a break. There is nothing that special about Lamar that wows me that makes me consider him an MVP of any kind.

[–] Swarzey@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The Mahomes odds make sense. 2x MVP and been in the conversation every year as a starter, the odds aren't going to fluctuate wildly; history will keep him up there in the minds of the bookmakers until the very end.

As long as neither Hurts or Mahomes pick it up in the second half of the season, I think Lamar has a good chance. The stats/volume aren't there but if they're not there for anyone else, when you start pulling the curtain back a little he's playing a cut above the other two.

[–] Power_of_Atturdy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

At this point Stroud is a stronger candidate than Lamar. What a weak year.

[–] ozairh18@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Even in a down year for MVP, it will most likely go to a quarterback unfortunately

[–] Tlomz27@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Should be Hill, Brown, or McCaffrey

[–] ThaNorth@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

MAHOMES 2023 STATS:

Passing yards: 2442

Rushing yards: 258

Cmp%: 68.6

TDs: 17

INTs: 8

TD %: 5.1

Y/A: 7.3

Fumbles: 2

Sacks: 12

LAMAR 2023 STATS:

Passing yards: 1954

Rushing yards: 440

Cmp%: 71.5

TDs: 14(9 passing, 5 rushing)

INTs: 3

TD%: 3.6

Y/A: 7.7

Fumbles: 10

Sacks: 21

Not the most explosive MVP race between two quarterbacks.

[–] 94717395683@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Shroud has outperformed all 3

[–] Aerolithe_Lion@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

NFL positions are too different and compartmentalized compared to MLB or NBA or NHL.

MVP should be like the Cy Young for QBs, and offensive player of the year should be exclusively for skill position players. Then they should add a lineman of the year award

It’s rare that DBs ever win DPOY (I can only recall 3-4 instances ever, that as well should be broken into Dline and back 7

[–] birdman133@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The disrespect to Stroud.... 2,200 yards, 14 TDs, 1 pick......

[–] Prestigious-Rock201@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If we get first seed it’s hurts to lose

[–] CTG0161@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If the Texans make the playoffs, Stroud should win both rookie of the year and MVP

[–] onetimequestion66@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I usually like mahomes and think people overreact to how obsessed the nfl is with him but there’s really no reason for him to be at the top of this list thisbyear

[–] Ok-Mode-3157@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What about Mac Jones?

[–] Trashman82@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

A QB is going to win MVP? You gotta be shitting me!

[–] Janawham_Blamiston@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

When was the last time a non QB won MVP? I get that usually the QB is the most valuable player on the team, but why can't that just be a given, and it can go to a different position? Like, sure, Tua is the one throwing the ball, but Tyreek is the one actually creating separation, catching the ball, and getting in the yards, ya know?

Too bad there wasn't a 'Most Valuable' type award for each position, plus the defense. Though that's probably just wishful thinking.

[–] Forrest319@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I get Mahomes is in the conversation by default.... but really? This feels like Lamar by a landslide so far this year.

[–] Agentwise@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It’s Lamar right now Jalen and pat didn’t protect the ball early in the season

[–] No-Computer-2847@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Hot take but Mahomes should be nowhere near it so far

[–] elfbullock@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The mvp has no reason to be a QB this year

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