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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Getting ready to drop some raspberry pi OpenWRT WiFi 7 with WiFi HaLow around westchester to downtown. Let me know needed areas!

[–] Gmork@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This sounds cool but what exactly will it do and what's the purpose? What will these devices be connected to for internet? Local stores wifi and then extending it for others to use?

[–] considerealization@lemmy.ca 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] seaplant@slrpnk.net 1 points 19 hours ago

This is super cool! That video mentions heavy rain could cause some interference, anyone know how significant of a concern that is? Like how heavy of rain has what kind of impact on speeds?

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How long until the cities' PDs start busting down peoples doors for this?

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Why would they? This is a legitimate business

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay I read the explanation on their faq page but I’m still kinda confused on how this works. Don’t they need like satellites for internet access? What exactly is this in simple terms? Like it seems good, I just want to understand it

[–] woodenleg_duck@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You don't need satellites, just some connection on a datacenter (like but internet in bulk, maybe they have some special deal and is free or very cheap). But this is the boring part, the fun part is that you can connect to the hubs (light blue dots in the map) with a router with an antenna or you can connect to another router (red dots). The network is like a living being that keeps expanding. Then to go out to the Internet, the packets are jumping as they can between neighbors (they have a way to know the path) until they reach the datacenter. It looks like you only have to pay for the initial equipment (plus some donations to maintain the network), but it will probably end up costing you some of your time maintaining the network, learning and helping other people in the network.

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 1 points 4 hours ago

I think I get it now! Thank you for explaining!

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can they start building affordable housing and go around the manipulated housing market?

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That only part of the issue. An affordable home today can quickly raise in value, gentrification, the secondary real estate market, tax appraisal, these are all still problems.

Now if we could just talk to some EU internet satellites...

[–] arrakark@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] axh@lemmy.world 118 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

I am old enough and geek enough to be bothered by the use of the word "WiFi" instead of the Internet or just network.

It's only WiFi if you connect the wireless router at the end.

Edit: just noticed mention of the "antenna at the roof" on the page, but I still don't think it's WiFi, "WiFi" is a name of the technology that allows wireless access by multiple devices. I think it's rather radio communication between the router and the access point. They basically use radio waves instead of the cable, it was often used in rural areas in my country, where putting cables would be too expensive.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

WiFi is a specific protocol, IEEE 802.11 (with a lower case letter at the end for the version). There have long been hobbyist and commercial methods for using it with point-to-point links. There are some other wireless methods for this, like LoRa/Meshtastc, but they tend to be slower and less developed. Everyone prefers using WiFi.

So, yes, they are using WiFi in a point-to-point way. The antenna is directional to give it (potentially) several miles of range.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

Usually a dish these days rather than waveguide, but yes.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Setup some multi km Wi-Fi bridges before, that was fun.

[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Same here and when people refer to the PC tower as the CPU

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't know that's even a thing.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It was a thing moreso in the '90s.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I was using computers in the '90s. Guess it just wasn't ubiquitous.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago

I heard it in computer labs a lot at school. The "CPU tower".

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It would seem a lot of people think Wi-Fi is internet. I've heard someone call it "Wi-Fi with exclamation mark" when without internet access.

[–] truxnell@aussie.zone 16 points 2 days ago

My eldest when her internet want working confidently told me her computer couldn't connect to the globe

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 8 points 2 days ago

But.. It is P2P WiFi...

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm old enough and nerd enough to be slightly peeved that "community built" isn't hyphenated ("community-built").

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 20 hours ago

The hyphen is for clarity. Its use is totally optional in that context

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[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I hope they are aware of https://freifunk.net/ and don't start from scratch completely. They've been doing that kinda stuff for over a decade and have developed a modified OpenWRT version and maintain lists of compatible routers

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

NYC Mesh has been around for more than a decade. I assume they talked to other similar projects when building it.

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[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I see freifunk networks more rarely nowadays. They also are notoriously slow. Usually the mobile phone network is faster, even in Germany.

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[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cue lawsuits from ISPs in 3, 2, 1...

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Time to go cyberpunk. Hidden routers using stolen electricity.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

There’s a bunch of LoRaWAN and Meshtastic out here too. Join the movement!

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I’m shocked this is going through. I gotta imagine at least Tennessee will block it. They’re super pro-big isp.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Okay, going off the title to start with you're building a WiFi network, that's very cool (I'm guessing it's a mesh network), but will you connect it to the Internet too?

That'd be more of a headline if so, then just building a WiFi network.

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[–] ryanvgates@infosec.pub 23 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Does anyone know what other cities are building similar networks? Or how to get started doing it in your city?

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[–] nroth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That is for sharing! I'm up to see what I can do on the UWS (signed up) but maybe that's too far

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