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Ice officers encouraged to ‘push the envelope’ with arrests, including of undocumented people encountered by chance

Senior US immigration officials over the weekend instructed rank-and-file officers to “turn the creative knob up to 11” when it comes to enforcement, including by interviewing and potentially arresting people they called “collaterals”, according to internal agency emails viewed by the Guardian.

Officers were also urged to increase apprehensions and think up tactics to “push the envelope” one email said, with staff encouraged to come up with new ways of increasing arrests and suggesting them to superiors.

“If it involves handcuffs on wrists, it’s probably worth pursuing,” another message said.

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[–] pixelkitty@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

By collateral I assume they mean kidnapping someone’s family members to convince them to turn themselves in. Soooo… hostages?

This is getting so ugly so fast.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

May be worse than that, think like a war. Collateral damage is when say we are concerned with getting Isis. We realize that say there's 10 Isis members and 2 unrelated civilians in an area, so we drop the bomb anyway because we make the judgement call that stopping the guilty is more important than not killing innocents.

Collateral arrests to me sounds like they are OK with arresting/deporting people that may not even be related in any way to the undocumented immigrants, but may simply just be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

To a white supremacist, any nonwhite they can excise from the country is a win, there are no qualifiers, only excuses and what they can get away with.

A couple immigration prosecutors have been outed as extremely vile racists by their online activity. I don't think they are all like this, but enough of them are.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They won't stop until someone stacks up a pile of gestapo. Then they'll come down harder. This is fascism. It's going to take hot lead to make it stop. Sooner or later.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Law enforcement spent millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours looking for Eric Frein in the sticks. They may ramp up the rhetoric, but practically, someone fighting back would have the consequence of straining an already logistically strained effort.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

A well trained shooter took down 5 or 6 cops in Texas during the Michael Brown riots. They had to blow up a parking garage to finally take him down. Just one guy.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For every collateral arrest the person who did mistakenly arrest someone needs to go to the same prison for at least the same amount of time, or double. This should reduce the collateral arrests to a minimum.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean it sounds very INEFFICIENT to arrest people wrongly. Should be in everyone's best interest.

Sounds inefficient, but if your goal is to create deep fear and trauma, it's pretty darn efficient!

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

MAGA cult in a nutshell:

Bidens executive order on student loan forgiveness:

OMG HES A DICTATOR!! ONLY CONGRESS CAN DO THAT!!!

ICE literally saying "fuck the rules, arrest as many people as possible:"

Crickets

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

______ sympathizers will be rounded up with the rest of the undesirables.

It's happening here

Arm yourselves

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Push the envelope, get creative, you know with people's RIGHTS.

These people are crazy and evil.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Move Fast, Break Things: Government Edition.

The tech bros have screwed up our country.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They can just grab people and send them to supermax prison in a foreign country without any due process to verify if they were in the country legally or not

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Halt! Dürfen wir bitte ihre papiere sehen?"

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

They wouldn't say please.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If they are fishing for illegal immigrants they aren't already aware of then that means that legal immigrants and citizens will primarily be the ones getting harassed by overreaching federal agencies. If only there was a party tht respected people's right and didn't "tread" on them.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

More Gestapo! MORE GESTAPO!!!