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hadn’t been held back by lazy MS et al.

MS is not lazy but working hard to maintain their lead.

edit: Just noticed that my phrasing is bad and could be seen as praise. OP is right, MS is holding everybody back.

I meant to say that they abuse their market domination to maintain their lead.

Look at MS Teams. It was free until Slack was done as a competitor.

MS did things but that's inevitable. The crucial part are the things that they prevented.

It's increadible that OP is even downvoted.

You’re way off here. Microsoft are the industry leaders in this space because they’re so far ahead of everyone else because they focus on this stuff. They’re far from lazy, they’re the opposite in fact. As someone who manages the whole MS suite from entra to dev ops all the way to managed instance dbs and defender and everything in between daily, their integration across everything and their pace of updates is insane.

What products specifically are you calling “outdated junk” and why?

Can anything be more incomprehensible that Discord?

Incomprehensible? How? It’s got team/channel chats, private chats, and meetings. What makes it stand out is, like everything else MS does, the integration across all their services.

It definitely needs some improvement, but “incomprehensible” it isn’t.

The worst part for teams is if you do contract work and need to be a part of multiple teams instances... It's a MASSIVE fucking pain. Microsoft's login processes are absolute infuriating and even more so if you have to log in to multiple different accounts that all somehow have the same email address but different tenants without letting you know which account version is for which tenant.

We had to use slack for our internal stuff so we could always be in contact with each other because you could only be signed into one teams instance at a time without jumping through crazy hoops.

I initially wanted us to move to teams but that hurdle stopped us. I'm kinda glad in hindsight.

Used Teams for a bit. Seemed fine, just used it like any other IRC clone. Didn't use it for video. Windows has a lot of annoyances; death by a thousand cuts. The Windows ecosystem also sucks: to the point where graphic card and mouse driver installers try to install spyware.

Channels get hidden when they’re inactive for a decent amount of time. To see them you just view all the channels in a team. Not really hard. Can also just then tick to always show it. This is a PICNIC situation.

I’m guessing your 2 instances are the personal one that is included with windows, and then the work one. You can’t have 2 instances of the same one installed.

Trump's executive order forced Microsoft to disable access for ICC's Chief Prosecutor. So, in a sense, Trump is indeed a threat to digital sovereignty.

Literally no one I work with likes Teams but we keep using it because that's just what we do. Other options basically don't exist simply by virtue of being either not Microsoft or not overwhelmingly the market leader.

At mine the person in charge of IT procurement is an ex Microsoft salesman.

My work hate Microsoft but don't see a viable alternative. Microsoft is safer because of their stranglehold.

It crashes, it loses things, it has a lousy search function, to automate messaging you need to learn one of the arcane and convoluted MS services because they deprecated the much easier webhooks...

When something fails (and it always does) we just say "Well... it's Teams", and that sums it up.

Governments are usually inhabited by older folks, that aren't too tech savvy.

Legal liability for when the service, inevitably, gets breached. If the government hosts it, they're liable. If the vendor hosts it, the vendor is liable. Simple as money matters.

Yes, they'll use Linux.