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U.S. Senate Republican leaders expressed confidence Tuesday they’ll be able to tamp down opposition to various elements of the party’s “big, beautiful bill” in time to approve the measure before the Fourth of July, though they acknowledged there’s considerable work left to do.

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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Laser@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would Biden / Obama do this

Ask and ye shall receive:

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

They will complain all day but will absolutely pass the bill on party line with cuts to medicaid and services their voters rely on.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“GOP bootlickers remain unswayed by reality. Okay with nightmare to come.”

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They won't be okay with it, it's just that it's not even almost a possibility that they caused it.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

And they're all voting for it anyway!

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At least there's a silver lining.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No.

I don't care, an increase in human suffering is not worthy of celebration.

And, way to play into their hands; the more people think like you, the more strongly the fascist fucks well believe that their tyranny is justified.

Eye for eye, until the whole world is blind? Sounds like a damn stupid plan to me...

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ive tried for years to convince themselves knuckle draggers all while they wish me nothing but the worst for wanting things like universal Healthcare and equality. I smile everytime I see a story like this. Evil people need to feel the consequences of their actions.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like they convinced you instead. Because taking pleasure in the misery of others is precisely what they're all about.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taking pleasure in the (self inflicted) suffering of others, but voting for and supporting policy change to fix that suffering seems very different from actively participating in the increase of suffering of others.

Not everyone has to be as holy as thou to not be evil.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a pretty damn thin line, and a recipe for hypocrisy while you're at it.

No, abandoning your empathy is not gonna lead anywhere good.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A tolerant society can't tolerate intolerance. Fuck'em.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. But abandoning your empathy is a great way to become one of the intolerant ones. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There can be no empathy for intolerance, none.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Ok. Never said that.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And now you've become a piece of what you hate.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think this actually plays into GOP hands. We’ve already seen Republican voters seem to vote with their feeling on their local situation, without much overall awareness or larger perspective. So now this situation gets worse for them and it’s easy to see karma at work. But from their perspective things suck and we see they’re easily manipulated by people claiming they have the solution, demonizing a scapegoat, claiming they’re going to disrupt and change, claiming it’s “a big beautiful bill”.

Isn’t this more of the same? Rural voters descend into ever worse situation, are unable to lift their eyes to see the full picture, get manipulated into ever more extreme actions.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That it'll hurt rural hospitals...? Please tell me you mean something else about it, or that there's a joke I'm missing...

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its not quite clear to me either. My guess is that the majority of rural populations vote GOP. So the ones that will face this particular impact are GOP voters. Again, this is just my assumption of what @Pistcow@lemm.ee was referring to. I'm not trying to strawman them.

Personally, I don't want anyone to lose healthcare, especially the poor rural folks, even if they are GOP voters.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they're just taking solace in it not hurting demographics that didn't vote for this I guess I can understand trying to find ways this isn't quite as awful.

But rural folks suffering is awful. I don't wanna root for suffering, or consider it a good thing.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is a good thing because these people lack empathy and can only change their ways when they experience lose and pain.

I phone banked for the Democratic party during both elections. Just to remind to vote for registered democrats. So many times a family member answered and said the most vile threatening things. Man, Im an asshole for wanting human rights.

At this point, these people are evil and deserve every bit of pain. If I had magic powers, and could snap my fingers to give everyone of them stage 4 cancer, I'd do it immediately and sleep like a baby. They deserve it all and our society would be better without them.

A tolerant society cannot tolerate intolerance.

[–] Cargon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Propaganda outlets will tell rural voters all their problems are caused by Democrats regardless of who is in power and regardless of who passed what bill.

The silver lining here is not that rural voters will experience the consequences of their actions and have some sort of epiphany (they are incapable of that), the silver lining is that this suffering reduces their resources. Which means they are less effective in their war on society.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Rural areas tend to vote republican.

So leopards eating faces and all that jazz.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m reminded of all the rural voters in Texas that vehemently didn’t want “private school vouchers”… but voted Republican anyway.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Missouri kept the right for abortion at the state level and then elect politicians like Trump who want to overturn the right for all states.

Republican voters are morons.

[–] Buske@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

There will be no rural hospitals.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for warning us before you pull the trigger. I may not have voted for any of you fuckers, but I'll be damned if you didn't warn us about all the ways you were gonna ruin our lives before the morons around me voted for you.

I sure am glad Beto O'Rourke didn't win. Sure, I got plenty of access to firearms whether in my house or at the multiple gun stores down the street—and, sure, I've never considered owning an AR-15, but I don't wanna protect children as much as I want bat-shit crazy neighbor to have the freedom to own 3: two of which he welded together.

My freedom keeps my belly full and warms my bed at night.

Edit: I got angry and went on a loony tangent of a rant. Sorry.