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Dont say Prometheus

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It was discovered in pre-history, and almost certainly independently by many, many individuals. You aren't going to get a name on it.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Counterpoint: I heard it was Dave

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

That prick!

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was the Roman ruler, Biggus Dickus.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

I have a vewy good fwiend in Wome named Biggus Dickus.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How do you think the first manmade ignition happened?

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 16 points 2 days ago

Someone was careless with their cigarette.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

My guess would be someone trying to make stone tools by banging rocks together, a spark fell into dry grass, etc. But, you know, just a guess.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Whe a rock likes another rock very very much

Like flints to the spark

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah probably while making a tool/smashing something. Knocking two rocks together, create a spark on accident, boom fire.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago
[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Dont say Prometheus

Ok... it was Προμηθεύς.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Thanks for your compliance

[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We don't know. Hell, we can't even narrow it down to a specific place with certainty. There is strong evidence in human settlements for use of fire anywhere from a few hundred thousand to 1 million years ago. When, exactly, is hard to ascertain; for instance, some sites which are claimed to hold the oldest evidence have been criticized as resembling the aftermath of wildfires.

It is also depends on what you mean by "discovered": Early proto-hominids were almost certainly aware of fire and the concept of burning, so are we counting from when they realized "hey, I can take a burning thing and put it where I want it, and it will spread burning there?" Or are we only counting from when fire began to be used as a tool (e.g., for clearing brush or cooking)? Or when humans discovered how to start fires in the absence of a natural source?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That last question is the most interesting to me. I guess it doesn't take much intuition to realize that rubbing things together makes them hot. Rub your arm really fast.

Still, watching experienced woodsmen starting a fire from scratch is an education. Even the best struggle.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even the best struggle.

I have watched Primitive Technology start fires with a hand drill so many times, he's got it down pat.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Primitive Technology can also select their tools for maximum gain. Apparently it's relatively easy when you've got the right woods and kindling.

When you're somewhere in the wilds your wood might be too hard, too soft or too wet or whatever.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Oh, of course. He's very familiar with his area and the best materials to use, and has lots of practice. But he's also pretty famous for showing his work without cuts, and I am always amazed with his hand drill skills. He's got an ember in like twenty seconds.

[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It really is an interesting question, yes! Fires started by frictional heating are pretty uncommon in nature, but early humans could pretty readily see that objects placed near a fire would begin to smolder and burn just from radiant heat.

It really depends on when we were able to take intellectual leap of realizing that all heat is equivalent, and fire is not a prerequisite of making new fire.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago
[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

That information is lost to pre-history, but probably either Ug or Urg. Those guys were like the Wright Brothers of cave shit.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Not Billy Joel.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

My ancestors.

Your ancestors too.

We have the same ancestors.

We're all really just family you know...

wait... isn't everyone just technically a cousin fucker? 🤔

Prometheus's dog

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 days ago

Well, where do you thing Bob got it from?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Probably a titan. Who created the universe in Greek myth? 🤔

Fire is a fundamental force of nature. Like gravity. So it either wasn't "invented" or was invented by the universe's creator if one exists. Newton didn't invent gravity. He didn't even discover it. He just found a new way to describe it via numbers instead of words (but also so many words).

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Wouldn't it be Hestia because Prometheus stole it from her?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Various individuals no doubt figured it out independently and then others in their tribe learned it from them. At first people probably took burning material from forest fires and brush fires that had been caused by lightning.

[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago
[–] vane@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The famous villain John Fireman. He was eventually killed by firefighters.

[–] Birch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Either Arthur Brown or H.P. Baxxter

E: or perhaps Keith Flint

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Some monkey

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“‘Inflammable’ means ‘flammable’? What a country!”

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was always originally "inflammable", as in "able to be inflamed". It wasn't until cargo warning placards came around (for trains, I'm sure), that the meaning got muddled up with "unable to be brought to flame".

There was an official agreement to create the word "flammable", and use that on warning placards instead.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s an old Simpsons quote, from Dr. Nick, a great side character.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

I knew it was a quote from somewhere, I just didn't care. ;)

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago
[–] tartarin@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fire wasn't discovered or invented, it was mastered.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thas fyre not fire

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Their name was Fire.

Similar situation to some of the other early inventors.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Mowgli invented it.
King Louie discovered it.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Les Oulhamr fuyaient dans la nuit épouvantable. Fous de souffrance et de fatigue, tout leur semblait vain devant la calamité suprême: le Feu était mort.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Wang Fire. Just don't ask where he got it from, Hotman.

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