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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Game pass is good for one month and playing like 3 single player games. But it’s really been the final nail, last gasp whatever you want to call it for XBOX. Its not sustainable, has stalled out and larger developers have had enough of getting f**** over.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

Instead of buying a license for a game for $70 you subscribe to a rental service that gives you access to 500 games for $10/month.

Or, instead of buying a $500 console or a $800 PC you just buy a $60 controller and you stream those games running on "the cloud" (=someone else's console) for $15/month

Problem is that the service is provided by Microsoft at a loss and when they'll get enough critical mass, they'll enshittify it.

The economic proposition is good, but I think it's just to teach gamers that "you'll own nothing and you'll be happy"

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world -3 points 3 hours ago

A pass for games.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 26 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Isn't this an old strategy of microsoft? Dump shitload of money into a market, then once you captured a significant portion start the enshittification.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Of Microsoft? That's like business 101 my dude, and mostly why business schools should be burned to the ground. The system we have stifles innovation and promotes greed. We fucked.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

It is classic tech company strategy.

We saw it with Amazon offering suspicious deals for years on name brand stuff to kill competitors. Uber offering subsidized rides to kill taxis. Google Photos offering unlimited free storage

If it seems too good to be true, check under your feet and see if there's a rug there.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Except now it's just spyware

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sooo... Gamepass is one of the services that is driving up the price of the non-gamepass versions of those games, right? They've got to recoup costs somehow, and then the rest of the industry takes that as an opportunity to consider these inflated prices as the new baseline.

[–] Tillman@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Games are a lot more expensive to make now. While the tooling has improved, the cost of labor has risen-sadly not enough to keep pace with the cost of living. The cost of a game to the consumer is also a lot cheaper than it was in even the 90’s. So you have a lead gen strategy in gamepass that forces them to recoup in other areas but they still aren’t able to recoup enough. Because of political monetary policies which gamers don’t really want to think about, currencies are worth less (USD lost 7% this year already-$100 bill is now worth $93) and the game prices haven’t adjusted to compensate. In short, games are hitting a similar wall to movies where in a world with Netflix, everything is going to end up looking like mediocre trash if it has to be basically free.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The market has also increased 1000-times over, while simultaneously removing physical barriers entirely. The development itself is more expensive, sure, but distribution is way cheaper and the potential gains have increased at a much quicker rate, especially for smaller games.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 38 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Gamepass is a super-obvious telegraphed trap for enshittification. Offer a good value (it is, for the time being), get people dependent on it, then pull the rug out.

How many times have we already seen this?

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

One of the shit thing is that all the games that I've bought in the last 5 years all has come into game pass.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

It's the business model that shareholders love and seems to be fairly ubiquitous. Eventually these corporations undergo trial by anti trust as their influence becomes increasingly toxic e.g. Google. The concentration of power into the hands of a few people is a problem with large hierarchies generally, ordinary people end up doing whacky stuff on the whim of someone that you never meet or know in any meaningful way.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Eventually these corporations undergo trial by anti trust as their influence becomes increasingly toxic e.g. Google.

lol, feel free to let me know when any actual consequences come from that

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 12 points 16 hours ago

We haven't seen antitrust with teeths for a while now.

Amazon, Microsoft, Meta, Apple should have been broken up in a million little pieces a long time ago, but it won't happen.

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[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I canceled it when I canceled every other subscription except real debrid

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think it was Netflix that went through a period of releasing movies in cinemas and putting it on streaming on day one.

It was such a resounding success that they no longer do that.

I guess MS has deep enough pockets to not realise their folly yet. PSN Premium/Extra isn't as good value from a consumer point of view, but it also hasn't killed their own console. What that cannibalises is the "wait for a sale" people, who would likely have paid £20 for a game a year or two down the line. I think that's a more manageable than losing all the day one £65 sales.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I thought that was during Covid.

I'm honestly surprised that movie theaters even exist still. Motion picture groups basically starve the theaters to the point where they can only survive off of concessions. The places are almost universally dirty and understaffed. Most of the mom and pop shops died off decades ago.

[–] Tillman@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

And as an industry they return less than the sp500 so not only is movie viewing horrible, movie making is a terrible investment .

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 15 hours ago

According to Wikipedia, they started it in 2015 with Beasts of No Nation and stopped in 2018 with Roma.

Lots of others did it during covid though.

The last time I actually enjoyed a cinema was a tiny little place in Iceland that appeared to have two screens, a ticket stand and a snack stand, and had one old guy running between all of them like a novelty act. This is how a cinema should be, not some horrible 12 screen thing showing the same Marvel shite at 20 minute intervals.

We did see Die Hard 4 though, so it wasn't all fun and games. Still it could have been worse. It could have been Die Hard 5...

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yet another example of:

C Suite / Upper Management doesn't listen when a seasoned software engineer of some kind points out an extremely obvious medium/long-run problem with the business model they're being asked to either functionally invent, or massively contribute to.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The goal is to lose money to capture the market and once it is done, to recoup their loss and bleed the market dry.

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[–] vala@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly who cares. Stop buying AAA slop and support indies.

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[–] Sidhean@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

backlog gamepass would be hype. Like, this whole thing is shit and old game should probably cycle into the public domain; if a corp put work into keeping old games playable, how cool would that be?

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 16 hours ago

"But if you offer all these old games to play, why would anyone bother buying the new stuff?" - some corpo director

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