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https://nriglobe.com/news/global-nri-news/nri-commentator-pinesap-fired-after-defending-fascism-in-viral-jubilee-debate-with-mehdi-hasan/

The Jubilee episode pitted British-American journalist Mehdi Hasan, renowned for his incisive debating style, against 20 self-proclaimed far-right conservatives, including Estelle. The discussion tackled divisive issues such as U.S. immigration policies, President Donald Trump’s leadership, the role of the U.S. Constitution, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Estelle, using his online persona “Pinesap,” emerged as a lightning rod when he unapologetically embraced fascist ideologies during a tense exchange with Hasan.

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Estelle further advocated for autocracy over democracy, arguing that the U.S. Constitution should be amended or ignored when it “fails to serve us.” When challenged on whether Democrats could similarly disregard the Constitution, he replied, “Absolutely not,” exposing inconsistencies in his stance. His comments, coupled with his refusal to unequivocally condemn antisemitism, fueled widespread condemnation online, particularly among NRI communities who viewed his rhetoric as a betrayal of shared values.

In the wake of the episode, Estelle announced on X, under the handle @FeelsGuy2003, that he had been fired from his role at VeUP Ltd, a tech firm with operations in the U.S., UK, Europe, and the Middle East. Claiming his termination was due to “political discrimination,” he launched a GiveSendGo fundraiser to support himself, alleging financial hardship. However, investigations by online sleuths have cast doubt on his narrative. A Threads post alleged that Estelle’s employment history was fabricated, with no verifiable evidence of his role at VeUP Ltd. The post further linked him to white nationalist Nick Fuentes’ network since 2022 and a fringe group dubbed the “Remilia cult,” purportedly connected to Elon Musk under the alias “Timeless Martian.” These unverified claims have intensified scrutiny of Estelle’s motives

That crowd let him go for so long before flagging him out. The dude who started to think that maybe Mehdi had a point got yanked real fast.

Nazi support got laughs and side eyes, the visage of learning and thought got immediate red flags.

Thought termination is more of a reflex to these right-wingers.

Insane that every time one of these fuckers gets punished their fellow bigots give them free tens of thousands of dollars.

15k is more than I have ever had at a single point working my entire adult life full time, and he got it for free for being a waste of life.

"My political belief is murdering 6 billion people"

Oh no, he gets to experience what many others have been experiencing their entire lives.

I work at a company where coworkers have joked about building drones to spray pepper gas at protestors. I let the joke land, smile politely, and move on.

I'm an atheist and have never mentioned this fact to the guy who hired me, because he's very religious and wouldn't have hired me.

I'm poly and I don't talk about my relationships, because they'd probably fire me at some point due to "a bad cultural fit."

There are only two other liberals at my company- one of them is doing the slow lefty dance that you do when you work in the deep south. You watch people's reactions as different topics come up in conversation, you make little jokes that can be taken multiple ways, and you slowly open up to the people that you're absolutely certain you can speak to safely.

The other is the daughter of the COO. She can wear her hair shaved up the side, or put a rainbow pin on her laptop bag. My lefty dance partner and I have to wear polos and conservative hair styles.

So, in conclusion, go fuck yourself.

That episode was fucking crazy. The dude in the pic straight up said he was a fascist. Another guy said that the first white people to come here and their descendants are native americans.

"Traditional right wing political views" == "autocracy". His words. He wants a fascist dictatorship and the elimination of free speech. Again, his words. I'm shocked that his employer didn't want to continue associating their company name with him.

Maybe he can get a job at jubilee, their staff apparently fills in when they can't find enough ~~right wing~~ openly neo-nazi trolls

Unfortunately voicing fully legal traditional right wing views results in real consequences.

Closer but no banana.

Hate speech might be legal but it does have real world consequence.

Maybe I should stage a video with a Black friend to scream racist obscenities at their child while a third friend records and shouts me down. Then it can go viral and we can split a few hundred thousands dollars between us when I post a funding round claiming to be the victim.

Not really. I'm just commenting on the ludicrousness of this racket.

Man..... We need to start contacting these shithead's local bishops and petition them for excommunication. Honestly not a good look for the Catholic church to be primarily associated with pedophillia and neo-nazi. Maybe the new pope being from Burger Land will motivate them to clean up their American franchise?

Expressing Nazi/Autocracy views from a position of influence should be illegal. Simple as that. He's getting off pretty easy here.

Hahahahaha get rekt fascist idiot

I hate that we keep rolling the dice on platforming these out-and-about fascists.

I understand that there are some that will be so disgusted with seeing this spoken out-loud that they'll solidify their resistance to fascism, but there's always this small chance that there will be more people attracted to fascist political movements than repelled from them.

I don't feel like I have a good handle on the overall sentiment in reactionary-coded spaces to say for sure, but jesus christ does it make me nervous whenever I see these clips go viral.

I’m sure the Trump administration is trying to figure out a role they can hire him for. “Hey, we hired another literal nazi” would be a great distraction from the Epstein business.

Should have said the N word or quoted the 14 words. Would have gotten more money.