Don’t think he’s going to have much of a say when they’re playing the Harden’s system
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This guy see the Spurs current record and said that guy can fix the Clippers problems 😂
The Spurs are not constructed to contend. Anyone who thought Wemby would take them from trash to contender during his rookie season was sadly mistaken.
This post wasn’t constructed to have a real debate
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He's gonna play sochan over westbrook and harden
The team is broken, so I'm not sure what he would do to help. Their main core is abunch of middle aged nba players that aren't as good as they used to be. If Kawhi and PG were both drafted by the Pacers that could have been a dynasty but what we see right now isn't it.
ty lue is unironically a better coach than pop
Kind of comes down to two trains of thought.
Some here will argue pop hasn’t had to deal with a ton of egos. (I don’t really agree)
Some will say pop did an excellent job managing egos, hence why we didn’t hear a ton about it during the 2000s and 2010s. (More inline with this, when you think about some of the guys who left SA and immediately had issues gelling into a new crew.
I think it’s the 2nd option. In regards to that question.
The other bit is what pop is trying to execute game to game offensively and defensively.
I think pop would get a lot out of PG13 and Kawai when they played especially defensively, maybe even the other two situationally.
Offensively, I have no idea what would happen, what principles he would emphasize or try to atleast, how much buy in he’d get from the big four. The rest of the lineup would likely benefit from him.
I am don’t think the game has passed pop, but it’s been interesting watch him try figure out how to use wemby currently. He obviously knows at base value, what he has, I am not sure he knows what he really wants to do to fully extract wemby (who does though…)
Using more common player archetypes with the modern game (the four players on the Clippers), I think he would get something out of the team. Not sure it would be all four at once.
Would it be better than TyLou? I have no idea, he gets a lot of stick, that roster has had a lot of turnover and he always eventually gets it going.
Very chicken and egg situations. IE is it the players or coach in both situations.
Funny how so much of the blame goes on the coach. Remember all the articles about how Lue was a genius mastermind who remembers every play?
GMs escape so much blame. Clips roster is pretty hilarious. Not only are they full of ISO heavy offense, their defensive players always specialized in ISO defense. Without a premier defensive big, it's pretty much doomed.
The Lebonbon Heat had difficulty getting just three stars to mesh, but they at least had a clear totem pole with Lebron as the head and Bosh being humble enough to focus on chemistry.
Heat are a great example. I remember them at like 9-9 or sub .500 after 20 games the first year. It came together. Not even saying this will work out for clips, but that the growing pains are normal.
Didn't Kawhi basically quit on Pop? And I can't even imagine Harden under Pop's tutelage. I'm not saying Pop isn't a great coach, but I'm not sure this is the roster that he's suited for.
Worse because he would make sure the fans wouldn’t boo opposing stars at the free throw line
Pop lucked out with Duncan. He struggled with Olympics.
Someday people will realize how ridiculous it is to win 5 rings with a small market, low budget team. Duncan's true net impact on winning is second only to MJ.
same or worst it not Pops type of players he can't do anything
it more on roster construction
needed a major overhaul for Clippers
or at least trade Harden again! and maybe add Pg13 for a legit Pf or center
Popovich is brilliant, but he’s been working within a culture that was established a long time ago by David Robinson and Tim Duncan. When your two superstars are that humble, it gives the coach a lot of leeway to focus on other stuff.
Consider Tony Parker. Tony was a talented young player, but Popovich was pretty harsh with him while trying to get him to play the right way. I don’t think an established star (and primadonna) like James Harden or Russell Westbrook is going to respond well to that.
I do think he would work well with Kawhi and Paul George, however. So if we’re talking about the Clippers from 2 seasons ago, he might do better.
But, dudes, Ty Lue is a good coach. Coaching an injury prone super team would be hard for anybody.
Poppovich is senile so prob the same
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Popovich is beyond cooked and his little stunt the other night on the PA system should have shown that he has jumped the shark as a coach. Spurs need to move on from him if they want Wemby to develop properly.
Nothing will fix the offense of the Clippers. When you pour so much into ISO heavy guys you're going to have to run an ISO offense.
This is actually the first time I've seen the "there's only one ball" problem really come to fruition because every single one of these guys needs time to get into rhythm. That's why you get streaks of just one of them shooting for 5 possessions straight. But it doesn't work because no one is ever in rhythm right now.
In theory, Harden and Westbrook SHOULD be the guys to get the offense going. They both play an iso-style where they kick the ball to someone with 2 seconds left on the shot clock, so it isnt great, but they are supposed to be good at running an offense.
Leonard and George have played the way they do now for the last 10+ years, so I wouldnt expect them to change. I would, however, expect them to play better defense. They used to be known for their defense. Im sure age and injuries have impacted how well they can defend, but they may also be wearing themselves out playing iso.
Not good. You can’t teach stupid
Prob worse but I don't think coaching has any real impact on that teams performance
The clippers issue is the Russ and harden combo you don’t need both of those guys to have big roles and they traded for harden and have Russ coming off the bench yet they still insist on forcing the 2 together.
Harden needs to be the point guard he has no off ball skill and just looks lost out there, he has no idea what a catch and shoot 3 is either so him and Russ are just hanging around putting no pressure on the defence. Harden is also way too passive I understand he is the 3rd option but half the time it looks like Lue told him not to shoot the ball.
Russ is still playing heavy minutes and taking a good number of shots it’s just too much of a roll to accommodate when 3 better players need the ball for significant amounts of time. As long as Russ is playing a big role it’s not even possible for 3 other stars to get in a rhythm. Either Kawhi or George gets in rhythm while the other sucks and James just tries to accommodate everyone.