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[–] Speiser0@feddit.org 31 points 1 month ago (5 children)

On german QWERTZ keyboards, you need to use shift to make : and !.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On US ones as well, I think they just put the relevant key-symbols and excluded the combination press as they can be assumed.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a custom keyboard with a QMK firmware. I enabled something called auto shift. It's the best. Just hold down the key you want shifted, and it auto shifts. I settled for enabling this for capital letters and symbols. So comfortable not to have to press the shift key.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So you hold down the first letter of each sentence longer so that it capitalizes rather than hold shift? That feels like it would completely mess with my flow when typing. Shift just happens naturally for me and I don't register I'm pushing it.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly like that, yes. Or 1 for exclamation point, or 2 for @. Just like on a phone keyboard, with tap and hold for symbols and numbers and such.

I've had this keyboard for a few months now and I didn't enable it exactly for the reasons you mention.

I enabled it a few weeks ago now just to try it, and wow, I though I didn't notice myself pressing the shift key, that it "came naturally". Boy was I wrong. Now whenever I have to use the shift key it feels so cumbersome lol. Typing has become so comfortable now.

I use a ZSA Voyager for reference.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What if you wanna repeat a character?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I spam the key. But that is such an extremely rare case that it's worth the trade-off. The firmware also does allow you to add a key to toggle auto shifting on and off, so I could just add that if I want, but I don't see the need.

If I need to repeat a character many times in a text editor, I'd just use the features of the editor to do so. Helix or Neovim has you covered for repeating characters thousands of times and copying it to the clipboard with a handful of keystrokes if you wish. But what an edge case though.

For double letters, I just double tap like you would normally when typing. 👍

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How does it work in games, like holding W?

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yea, this would be super slow.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 1 month ago

Here in Tarzania we hold the superior and elusive ! key

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Same on Dvorak.

Though the custom coder's Dvorak I use while programming has a dedicated ! key. Shift still needed for : though.

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[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

vim something.log
esc
quit
exit
ctrl+x
ctrl+q
shushejehojwhatiwibaln):gufht;vfgs+_&f
reboot
nano something.log

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

shushejehojwhatiwibaln

fond memories of this distro

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Why would a text editor use a key like q to quit, obviously quit is + ZZ

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We’re just quitting without writing? Living very dangerously aren’t we?

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It is an emergency exit not a normal exit.

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

When I accidentally edit a very important file very incorrectly and don't know what it looked like before

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The real emergency exit will leave swap files

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[–] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

It's advice for how most people end up in vim in the first place. git commit (without -m)

[–] hamsda@feddit.org 20 points 1 month ago

Thank you very much. I sent this to my coworker who expressed interest in switching to vim :)

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 18 points 1 month ago

Exit Sign

Vimer, get out!

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

how to quit vim

  1. pull computer cord out of wall
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago

Now it's just running on battery

[–] thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 month ago (6 children)

5 key presses to save and exit. Frickin vim.

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure that’s close without saving changes. :wq would be needed to save.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To be precise, : means bring up commands, w means save, q means exit, and ! means force

[–] HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it's w = write and q = quit so the letters make more sense

[–] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also :x is the same as :wq

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No, it isn't, x writes only when changes have been made, while w writes unconditionally.

[–] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago
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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

To be more precise, q means quit the current window. If you've split the window, e.g. with :split or :vsplit, use :qa to quit all windows.

[–] villainy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or 3. Hold shift, press ZZ to save and quit ZQ to quit without saving.

5. Writing and quitting

  					ZZ

ZZ Write current file, if modified, and close the current window (same as ":x"). If there are several windows for the current file, only the current window is closed.

  					ZQ

ZQ Quit without checking for changes (same as ":q!").

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Since people don't seem to realize that vim has a help system: You can get to this information with :help quit or :help exit

[–] lime@feddit.nu 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

four. the ! is unnecessary. how many actions are there to save and quit in other editors? ctrl, s, ctrl, w is four. move to file, click, move to save, click, move to ×, click is six.

and that's before we replace the wq with x.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

If we count the modifier keys:

Vim: esc, shift+:, w, q, Enter

Emacs: ctrl-s, crtl+x ctrl+c, or use the menu options

I use both, but find Emacs much quicker, though vim is easier to learn, though Emacs is easier while you're learning

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[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago

Depends how you count. Both : and ! require shift as well.

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[–] 2910000@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Works as long as you didn't put something silly in your nvim config like

vim.keymap.set("ca", "q!", "echo 'not so fast!'")
[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I believe that’s Vim for “Beam us out, Mr. Scott”

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Or just ZZ for me since I’m rarely in insert mode (I just press esc quickly after making an edit out of habit).

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

ZZTop could not be reached for comment

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago

ZZ for the win.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Would it be q a ! ?

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Or just ctrl-z to get out of it and "fg" to get back. :)

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[–] darkreader2636@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yet here in trq i need to press shift in %80 of the keys (that's why i use micro)

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[–] neblem@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You all exit your editor? How you do the rest of your computing?

/s with ♡ from an Emacs fan.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Emacs really is an excellent desktop environment

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