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I saw a clip on reddit about such karen and now that scenario is stuck in my head, new fear unlocked.

What's the best response for each scenario:

You are:

  1. Undocumented
  2. Legal - Visa
  3. Legal - Permanent Resident
  4. Naturalized Citizen
  5. Citizen at Birth
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[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 65 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As #5 white looking man: I'd tell her go ahead I'll wait. Then once they are here, tell ICE she runs an illegal daycare out of here home for illegal aliens' kids and that she is upset because I called her at the church potluck. Proceed to give them a local megachurch or if not available a white baptist church.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Then once they are here

They don't ask questions, so you don't need to continue. They just drag people away, it seems. They scoop up a dozen kiwis a month, which means your even your non-kiwi pasty-white self gets none of the privilege you're counting on.

[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

kiwis? what do New Zealanders have to do with it? I feel like something is flying very far over my head

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Neither will the karen

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Me: "Bitch, I'm white!"

Even if you are the blackest person on earth, this will immediately flabbergast and disarm them giving you a chance to escape.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

This is one of the reasons I won't consider traveling to the US because I think how any of those work out is going to depend on the luck of how others involved are feeling in that moment.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've been in a few confrontations in my life.

First rule in any confrontation is to maintain your cool. If you aren't going to throw the first punch, you want to look like the reasonable one. They are like dogs and can smell fear.

The figure out how to deescalate the situation. Ask her what she wants? Free delivery? A written apology? Yes her to death and walk away.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Having spent time in retail, yesing her to death is a legit strategy. You don’t have to agree with her for real, it’s like dealing with a toddler pitching a fit. They are primed for screaming and confrontation and don’t really know how to deal with someone who refuses to ‘play their part’ in the drama. Takes the wind out of their sails and leaves them confused, which is the perfect time to escape.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago
[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

With the blatant disregard for the rule of law this administration has already shown, it may not matter what number you fall under. A lot of it, very sadly, seems to be dependent on what you look like.

If you're 1 through 3, why are you picking a fight with a Karen? Get out before it escalates. And if it does, keep your head down and hope for the best. Or move cities, especially if you're #1. 4's and 5's may want to have proof of citizenship accessible. Keep a picture of your birth/naturalization certificate and/or passport on your phone, preferably behind a password like in a password vault app - don't just keep it in your camera roll, it needs encrypting.

It's also worthwhile keeping in mind that some Karens' bark is worse than their bite. They may have gotten off on the threat enough to not go thru with it.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago (4 children)

If you’re 1 through 3, why are you picking a fight with a Karen?

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1npqgez/im_tired_of_these_folks_always_threatening_others/

I didn't turn on sounds because its too depressing to hear the rant, but based on comments, its a doordash driver and the karen is making accusations of "they took our jobs" basically, and karen keeps getting in their face. Like what was this person supposed to do? Feels terrifying.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

What a fucking asshole this woman is. "Taking our jerbs" bitch I'm sure you wouldn't be caught dead driving DoorDash!

I never understand how a person can have this much hate in their heart.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

Watch an hour of fox, then you will

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[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

They should have just driven away and not engaged with her.

I'm not going to watch the video. Site unseen I'm willing to pass judgment and consider her a truly terrible person. That doesn't change the math though. If you have no visa to work, you may need to bow out of that job. You can't risk denunciation on principle. Which is a fucking depressing sentence to write. But here we are in 2025.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Literally just walk away. Like, this isn't hard or complicated. If someone is threatening you, you walk away. If they are trying to get physical, you push past them and run.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That Karen has threatened your life. Handle the situation as such.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This is not how you avoid deportation

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 days ago

All I’ll say is that anyone who would do that to someone is a class traitor and deserves consequences

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

anyone who threatens me will receive it in turn.

you're gonna call ICE on me? better hope they get to me before I get to you, because there won't be any hope for you and your family if they don't.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Call ICE on her. She could be one of those criminal Canadians or Irish or Greeks.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 4 days ago

That's unbelievable. The Greeks won't steal anybody's jobs.

[–] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (11 children)

I don't condone violence normally for any reason, but anyone who does this to anyone clearly deserves a wooden board to the face.

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[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

I think the responses have to vary by gender and skin color.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)
  1. Emigrate.
  2. Emigrate.
  3. Emigrate.
  4. Emigrate.
  5. Emigrate.

/half-joking

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

My family already did that, we left mainland China, because PRC was fucked economically and employment was high, very difficult to find a job, and jobs were very shit, and no labor protections. (and also the government sucked, corrupt af)

Then we ended up in the US a decade ago (well, more than a decade ago)

So um...

Lol...

Left a dictatorship just to end up in another dictatorship 🙃. (Despite this, I still hate that place, there's no fucking way I wanna go back to that hell, too much toxic masculinity and anti-LGBT sentiments, and ableism in society, besides, my primary language is English and there's no way in hell I'd wanna learn written Chinese, jesus christ that shit's hard, I'm practically illiterate there, so much media is censored, I don't like it.)

AFAIK, EU isn't gonna take asylum cases seriously. I'm cis and not LGBT btw, so I have no legitimate asylum claims.

🤷‍♂️

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Sorry to break this to you, but you're gay, because it's absolutely OK to lie to gatekeepers.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Brb, downloading grindr. 🤭

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

None of you fools in this thread have ever encountered a public situation, much less a dangerous public situation huh?

DagwoodIII's Is the only real answer here. https://lemmy.world/post/36439135/19587202

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 4 days ago

Sir, this is a niche social media board on the internet.

Of course we don't encounter these situations as we would prefer to not go in public because we might encounter situations like these.

Due to issues regarding paranoia and melanin, I have declined to answer your question. Despite counsel’s advice, I upvoted anyway. This message will be deleted in 24 hours.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

4 and 5 have very different answers depending on race. I'm white, have a Midwestern accent, and was born here. I can look at this person like they're a moron and ask if they've never heard an ohio accent before or what. A Latino born in the same hospital who grew up a town over has to be more diplomatic about explaining that them and their parents were born here.

Similarly a white person naturalized from Australia can be a lot more blase than a brown person naturalized from anywhere.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

I'm Chinese American, am naturalized Citizen. Can I pull the "model minority" card? I speak English with no "foreign" accents since I grew up here.

I don't think theres currently a sterotype of (East) Asian Americans being "criminals", is there?

That said tho, after Covid, i'm not sure anymore.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Act like you can't hear and get away. If she grabs or tries to block moving away then escalate to what is required to get away.

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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 3 days ago
  1. Find out who she is. Get her license plate. Take her picture. This person is a threat and your community needs to be aware of her.
[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

#1-5: Power-wash her uvula with OC spray. Can't promise it'll improve things but it'll be hilarious.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

For someone of European descent, maybe.

But for everyone else, that's gonna incite a race riot. I don't know about y'all, but I don't wanna see my compatriots getting attacked due to my actions.

Throw on a Richard Nixon mask first, it'll look more real than he ever did.

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Threaten to call MS13, TdN or any of the other scaremongering topics on her.

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[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Treat them like a shark and punch them in the nose before running away.

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