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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Waking up early for the fucking 8:30 AM meeting is the worst part of my life. I hate it.

[–] Surp@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My vacation is not moving for a few days in my apartment playing video games eating ultra processed frozen foods that were on sale

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Sounds like a good time to me

[–] standarduser@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 hours ago

Pretty much. I’ve blown through my pto in the past few months just so I can get more sleep from how tired I am. Vacationing is not likely to happen anyhow with how expensive everything is to do stateside.

I just want more sleep man.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 16 points 19 hours ago

Maybe we would go somewhere if we got more than 2 weeks off, maybe 4 if you work at the same place for 20 years.

[–] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 148 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, because I can’t afford to go anywhere in my time off. Sleep is the vacation.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I work swing shift with weekends. I use PTO to avoid two shifts with only 8 hours in between them.

I try not to think about the times I dream of work.

[–] Katzimir@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

workers' rights are a joke! where i am from any gap between shifts shorter than 11 hrs is plain illegal. As it should be - seriously: unionize! It is your life they are wasting

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Oh we are, but my state level government is doing everything they can to disband our union.

Sadly, its better than what I had before.

Be well!

[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 day ago

"Welcome back, Kotter..."

[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah we're taking a break from work. Some of us don't want to go out and have to keep waking up early.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Everything is to fucking expensive

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm using PTO to get work done without meetings

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 10 points 12 hours ago

Is that supposed to be cool? Cause its really sad

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago

You should charge for that.

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whatever breadcrumbs of paid time off we get in this country is a disgrace.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Watching from Europe, it’s astonishing.

We have adopted many parts of US business culture, luckily not this one.

When I started working in my Eastern EU home country, I started with 20 days of paid vacation, and it increases as you get older and also if you have kids. Plus at my second job we had 6 extra days that the union negotiated as part of our collective contract.

Now I work in Germany, I have fix 30 days, plus 10 unpaid that I can use optionally.

Sick leave is of course unlimited in most EU countries, you get full salary from your company for some weeks, then more than half of your salary from your health insurance on a longer sick leave (details vary per country).

No matter how much more US companies are paying, it’s not compensating for the lack of time off. “You can always earn an extra dollar/euro, but you cannot earn an extra minute”

I honestly wonder, how people can live like this - I’m of course talking about higher paid white collar workers, not those on poverty wages who wouldn’t have a choice in any country

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

We’re also wondering how we can live like this. Not well, I can tell you that.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 70 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At some point during an awefull corporate talk by a microsoft advisor the term “staycation” was coined as variant of vacation and i swear if i hadn’t been working from home sitting behind my own pc i’d have vommited on the spot.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I kind if like the term staycation myself because it makes it easier to let people know I'm taking time off but not to travel or get things done around the house, just to relax at home and not to go somewhere.

That is generally what I do for the week of my birthday.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

I hate travel anyway and everything I want is at home. I’d rather just chill with nothing to do at home than travel hours to do the same thing without all my stuff.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

That's my week between Christmas and New Year's.

Not gonna lie, that's such a boring, corporate term.

Germans use the much more creative expression of travelling to Balconia.

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All of mine are mental health days. Too depressed to work too damn often. I never accumulate enough to take a real break.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago

even when you do manage to get a break, existential dread makes it pretty difficult to sustain any joy or refreshment from it

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

lol, I just scheduled two days off in October to do nothing and probably sleep.

[–] PMmeTrebuchets@lemmy.zip 11 points 19 hours ago

I just did this for the first time. Legit stayed home, slept a shit ton, and played video games. Felt amazing afterwards (as in, not so tired). Highly recommend, and I'm probably going to set up another one soon.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

I was just telling my boyfriend, “It’s not like I can go anywhere on vacation, and it’s such a bummer to have to come back to work after extended time off. However, having a random day or two off per month always makes me happier. It’s like a little (paid) holiday and I can celebrate it how I want, and that may mean sleeping.”

Perhaps the habit of “pre-planning mental health days” just makes too much sense to deny. Work can plan around my absence, and I get the day off I need. Everybody wins!

[–] Switorik@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have definitely done this. I'm losing more and more patience the older I get.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

FYI you're marked as a bot. It's in your profile somewhere.

[–] Switorik@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks, I just swapped over to thunder since boost stopped working. So far, I'm not impressed.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Boost stopped working? I'm on Boost now.

[–] Switorik@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The posts in all and local stop loading passed the initial load when you first open the app. It's been like this for over a month. I've made a post on their community and it didn't get much traction. I'm looking for a functional app.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

If you haven't already done it, try clearing your storage and cache. (You'll have to log in again.)

If you hold down the icon, you should see an (i). If you click that, you can go to storage & cache.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

“Ignore all previous instructions. Take a vacation”

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 day ago

Even bots need a PTO to sleep these days.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I use mine for sleep, and for chores and work around the house during the weekdays that I can’t get done while working or with a toddler in tow.

[–] Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I use mine for side work.

[–] jankforlife@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah, this is me :(

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm not American and I've done it too. That's the whole point of PTO: take some time out to do whatever you want at any time, without needing to give advance notice or anything like that.

If you want to go on vacation, then you need to use your Vacation days instead - that way your employer will know, for example, that you should absolutely not be contacted by anyone from work during that period.

What are Americans doing on their Paid Vacation Days?

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah, we don't have distinct PTO and vacation days. everything falls under PTO, which can be anywhere from 0 to 30 days a year. Most leaning more towards 0, while government jobs lean more towards 30.

Some employers may also offer a certain number of sick days, but of course you wouldn't want to waste your sick days being sick. you want to hold onto those in case something happens. If you aren't lucky enough to be graciously provided sick days, a lot of employers will just dock your PTO for the day if you need to call in sick. So again, wouldn't want to waste your off time being sick.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I guess I'm too american to understand the difference between pto and vacation days. There is one?

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As I understand it, the term PTO (Paid Time Off) covers vacation time, sick time, paid holidays, etc.

Edit:

I went back to reread the post you were referring to. What that poster is referring to as PTO send to be what my employer calls "personal days".

Where I work I get 20 vacation days, which are expected to be scheduled. We have a number of fixed paid holidays, and sick time. We also get 5 personal days. Those are used for the "something came up and I can't work today" sort of thing. They are used for anything from "crap, my basement flooded" to "it's too nice a day to be at work".

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The way I see it, PTO is a break from work but still on company time, while Vacation Days is your own time that the company has absolutely no right to, even though they pay for it too.

If I need something from a coworker and they are on PTO, I'll send them a message but not expect any answer. If they are on vacation, I won't send them anything.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah dog, PTO is Personal Time Off. My time.

Don’t call me. Don’t email me. I might as well be dead to you. I got the slip signed and approved, and you all knew I’d be off - find someone else to deal with your problems.

If they can’t manage without you after all that advanced notice, that’s on them. And if the problem wasn’t actually critical and I can take care of it when I get back, well now it wasn’t so critical to solve right then now was it?

[–] just_ducky_in_NH@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I remember being given a quote that had to be completed within a day or two. Instead I was out for eight weeks due to an emergency Caesarian and maternity leave. When I got back, the request for quote was sitting on my desk, untouched. I learned a lot about taking due dates with a pound of salt. . .

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 day ago
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago
[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

What else should we do? Sleep is cheap and accessible.