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[–] tal@olio.cafe 95 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Hegseth told senior military leaders that he no longer wants to see “fat generals and admirals” or overweight troops in combat units.

“It’s completely unacceptable to see fat generals and admirals in the halls of the Pentagon leading commands around the country, in the world, it’s a bad look,” Hegseth said.

For people who are actually engaged in combat, okay, but usually generals are not going to be personally engaged in physical combat. If they are, things have probably gone rather wrong on other levels. Like, we're theoretically choosing people at that level based on ability to coordinate and plan, not to look sexy on TV.

The Defense Secretary pointed to his own regimen as an example. “It all starts with physical fitness and appearance,” he said. “If the Secretary of War can do regular, hard PT [physical training], so can every member of our joint force.”

Every time I think the cringe bar cannot go lower, this administration manages it.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

Does he do regular exercise or just routinely skip meals and substitute ethanol and cocaine?

[–] RustyShackleford@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only chubby he wants is in his pants when he sees the troops and generals.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Must have something to do with flags permanently at half mast

As a preface, I think this admin, and this whole meeting including the part about fitness, is/was monumentally stupid and I hate where this is going.

However, I do subscribe to the healthy mind leads to a healthy body and healthy body leads to a healthy mind. I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to have an expectation that our military leadership be fit/healthy/in-shape and not beer-bellied pencil pushers lol. Hard to lead when you’re worried about your failing heart y’know? It is, however, SO STUPID, that they included this in the meeting and had Pete “The Alcoholic” Hegseth lecture them about health.

Beyond just the health of the leaders for their own performance, the military certainly does have a degree of “lead by example” and “respect for appearance” by the lower ranks of the upper ranks.

So while this whole thing is stupid and should’ve been an internal memo/order and, Hegseth and Trump are fascist cronnies — I don’t think it’s unreasonable for their to be a basic expectation that military leadership keep their weight in check (not ripped and huge with muscle, just lean and not overly fat).

[–] chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

i think mr kegseth has transitioned to coke

[–] tenchiken@anarchist.nexus 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"but we can't possibly have elections while at war!"

  • soon
[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

with our cities under attack/siege

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 24 points 1 day ago

... By ourselves

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

FDR:

brings the US out of the Great Depression

establishes social security

switches the US to wartime production after the USN’s primary pacific fleet harbor is attacked pretty badly

beats the Nazis

wins 3rd term (back when it was actually legal)

Please explain to me why we can’t have an election while at war.

(I know why, and how they’re trying to manipulate the optics. I just think it’d be great if everyone was just like “lol you’re a massive fucking pussy compared to FDR”, and simply refused to let up on that)

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Don't let them conflate foreign wars with hostile local occupation. The line that is being drawn is that since zalensky can forgo elections while major population centers are literally occupied by a hostile force (Russia) that that means elections here can be halted if we were to occupy our own cities

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 45 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Are they going to war with anyone in particular, or just the first country that looks at them funny?

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

They are going to war with the USA. Los Angeles, DC, Memphis, Chicago, Portland. Just the beginning if they keep getting away with it.

[–] tal@olio.cafe 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Newsweek is just using a clickbait headline. Hegseth hauled in all the top brass so that he could impress everyone with the fact that he works out.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

"Do you even lift, Bro? Git gud"

-- USA Secretary of Defence, 2025 CE

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Also, no more woke shit.

And shave yourself. Top to bottom. I want you smooth.

And strong. Very strong.

And no more chicks. Only dudes. Smooth, muscular dudes.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago

“No more frivolous complaints, no more anonymous complaints, no more repeat complainants, no more smearing reputations, no more endless waiting, no more legal limbo, no more side-tracking careers, no more walking on eggshells.

He added, “Of course, being a racist has been illegal in our formation since 1948. The same goes for sexual harassment. Both are wrong and illegal.”

But don't you dare fucking complain about it!

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Testing the water about ordering them to attack us, the citizens of this fucking country.

🖕🤬🖕

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If any of those generals had a spine, they'd have pulled out their service weapon and Kirk'd that alcoholic right where he stood. You know, the way warriors are supposed to deal with traitors and wife-beater pussies.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 20 hours ago

You think they were allowed to go in there armed?

[–] MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Bet they all fuckin LOVED being talked down to about the ethos of their warriorism...

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Newsweek has contacted the Department of Defense for comment via email.

I love that Newsweek is ignoring the silly trump re-branding. Its like we're all treating it like Twitter.

Hegseth also ordered “a full review” of terms like toxic leadership, bullying, and hazing, which he argued have been “weaponized.” “The definition of ‘toxic’ has been turned upside down, and we’re correcting that,” he said. “If that makes me toxic, then so be it.”

You're toxic, Pete.

He later added drill sergeants can “put their hands on recruits” and use “tried and true methods” to motivate them.

Tried and true like racism and sexual harassment?

He added that the U.S. military will mandate troops in combat roles to meet “this highest male standard only,” requiring every service member in such positions to score above 70 percent on the “male standard” of their branch’s physical fitness test.

So this looks like his path to eliminate women from the armed forces.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago

Minorities too. There's a reason he was harping on shaving standards. Some people with curly hair get ingrown hairs when they shave every day. Causes infection and scarring. You can get a "no shave chit" - medical can excuse you from needing to be clean shaven.

Its mostly black men with these chits.

He's trying to give anyone who wants one an excuse to remove any one who isn't white enough (and male) from serving.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I never noticed until today, when Pete has been in the news so much -- are those his military medals he wears on his suit all the time? Is that the type of thing he is allowed to do if he is not in uniform? I've never served so I don't know.

I don't mean to denigrate his service: I'm sure he earned that (single) row of medals. But I couldn't help but notice that all the generals he was lecturing -- yes, even the ones with melanin and/or vaginas -- had many, many more rows of them. You would think the lecture on the "warrior ethos" would be going the other way

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He doesn’t have any military ribbons on him in that picture.

I think you are referring to that little line above his chest pocket. That is a handkerchief that is an American flag.

Once you are out of the uniform you can do whatever you want with your ribbons. Though it would be beyond bad taste for the secretary of defense to wear them on his suit jacket.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

So he'll probably do it at some point, is what you're saying.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I never noticed until today, when Pete has been in the news so much -- are those his military medals he wears on his suit all the time? Is that the type of thing he is allowed to do if he is not in uniform? I've never served so I don't know.

I don’t think so, I’m pretty sure it’s an American flag handkerchief folded so part is showing. You can see it on his Wikipedia photo where it is more clearly a flag.

I would suggest he’s making it thin on purpose so it looks like medals nowadays though.

Medals are I think most often worn in uniform. He is wearing a designer suit, so would look weird if he wore his medals on his suit OR the uniform of his former service, so he settles for the thin American flag of respectability.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You made me zoom in, and yes, I can see that it's a bit of a flag handkerchief. No doubt he wants it to look like a line of medals.

There is an interesting article in the NYT on him, and how he might be being perceived by the military's senior officers:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/us/politics/hegseth-military-officers.html

“He views the world from the point of view of a not terribly successful major in the National Guard,” said Eliot Cohen, a military historian who served in the State Department under President George W. Bush. “For him it’s push-ups, pull-ups and pugil sticks. It’s aggressiveness.”

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 8 points 1 day ago

He is for the military what Donald Trump is for business. He’s a weak, stupid person’s idea of a tough, smart military man.

Literally played one on TV (Fox News), just like Trump.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

He has more than a single line. Pretty much anyone who does any deployment will come out with a few ribbons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth#Awards_and_decorations

The badge on his lapel is the one of his former unit insignias. http://www.uniforms-4u.com/p-army-187-infantry-unit-crest-8821.aspx

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

peace through war. prosperity through austerity. victory through um whatever just suck my cock already.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 1 hour ago

peace through war

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hegseth told senior military leaders that he no longer wants to see “fat generals and admirals” or overweight troops in combat units.

He’s so right! They should follow the lead of the Commander in Chief here. No more hamburger swilling pigs!