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“This is SICK,” said the president’s team, accusing Johnson of “aiding and abetting criminal illegal immigrant killers, rapists, traffickers, and gang bangers.”
Still waiting for a single shred of evidence about any of this
Also still waiting for the trump/Epstein files!
And if there was evidence of illegal immigrants or criminals sheltering in a specific location, getting a warrant would be a piece of cake
Notice how they haven't deployed to Texas and Florida. Hmmm, what do they both have in common politically?
As usual, it's projection all the way. You'll find them all in the oval office.
My great-grandfather would lose his shit if someone had told him that feds would be invading states against the wishes of the local governments. We forgot what America is supposed to be.
Nobody forgot except terrorist maga republicans.
My grandfather fought actual Nazis, sometimes I ask myself what he would think of our political situation today.
My grandfather lived long enough.
He always said “I killed the nazis once I can kill them again if I have too”
We had to pull him from the nursing home because he kept yelling at the younger trump supporters in there. He called them the “me generation. All they care about is me me me”
My grandfather fought actual Nazis
My grandfather was in the Navy during the 1940s. My uncle was in the FBI during the 1980s. My brother is in the National Guard in the 2020s.
The times, they are a-changin'.
I ask myself what he would think of our political situation today.
There's a joke about going back to 1789 and telling George Washington what has happened in the past 250 years.
And his first response is "Wait, you let a black guy become president?! That's not what we fought for!"
His second response probably involves asking to see "Hot MILFs in your neighborhood"
I think that was Ben Franklin and not Washington. Ben was quite the lady chaser. He once had an exchange with a French woman who insulted him for being fat, she said 'if a woman had a belly like yours, we'd all think she was pregnant!' To which he replied, 'this belly, madame, was on top of many fine ladies over here recently'.
I am older; my Dad was an older guy when he had me. He fought in WWII.
Growing up he always told me: "I fought the jackboots. One day it will be your turn."
I don't know what happened to all the pre Rand Paul libertarians that everybody thought were paranoid talking about government overreach in the 90s?
Federal agents dropping from a fucking helicopter to an apartment building in Chicago, kicking down doors, zip tying crying children, keeping people they just pulled from their homes in cuffs for hours without letting them contact a lawyer, and raiding the entire building like fucking pirates to steal peoples valuables is so fucking far beyond "overreach."
what happened to all the pre Rand Paul libertarians
I was one of them. I was in deep. I've met Ron Paul multiple times. I know some of his former staffers.
I will tell you what happened:
It's so banal. But it's the truth. I know because I watched my former friends turn into people who intentionally spread COVID, to "show up the hoax"
They're keeping us separated by race. As long as it's "inner-city thugs" aka black people or latinos, the majority of rural America can handle it until it's too late especially if they only consumer curated propaganda. Well, that's what they hope. the people in charge of this are actually pretty fucking stupid though. Let's show them how wrong they are.
I love a president who decides he'll only represent some of the people.
Something that the current ICE activity brings to light is how lopsided government power has become in the US. The federal government has too much internal power and influence on US soil while state and local governments have too little.
Unless a state/local government is actively engaging in interstate crime against the wishes of their neighboring states the federal government shouldn't have any authority to impose federal laws/rules on those states.
The power structure of this country was more bottom up when it came to government authority and state autonomy when we broke off from the UK, we should seriously get back to that in some respects.
I agree with the gist of that, but being born and raised in the deep south, I believe the federal government coming in to enforce civil rights was very necessary.
That is not what this is. This is literally the opposite, and its insane that they are seriously trying to make that comparison.
The federal government came in to desegregate public schools. They didn't drop from helicopters on to the roof of private domiciles and send swat teams to kick down doors to arrest anybody opposed to desegregation.
The government is supposed to protect and defend the rights of every American, even if you disagree with them. That's also why "DEI" exists, and I hate to break it to anyone who gets angry hearing "DEI" talk, but if you're not named something like "Welslyian Trottersworth IV," like it or not, you have most likely benefitted from "DEI practices," at some point in your life.
Edit: And for those who might be asking, well what about young Welslyian? Why is he somehow less deserving just for being born into a consequence free life full of untouchable privilege? Welslyian IV is entitled to the same rights as anyone else, but exactly who TF do you think you need protection from? Who is it that you believe made society exclusionary in the first place?
If your ancestors were among the unfortunate souls who had to leap to their deaths from a burning building because Welslyian the first had locked the factory door to keep workers from taking unnecessary breaks on the clock; or those who went down into the coal mine one day only to be buried alive and abandoned because Welslyian the first knew he could save money by just closing off the caved in mines and starting over with new workers, maybe, just maybe, you should be asking yourself why you're so concerned about Welslyian IV not reaping the benefits of "DEI practices?"
Do you think Welslyians I-IV have ever given a shit about you or your well being? Or have they always just exploited you for their own personal gain? If you know the answer to that, then why do you think they need you to be so concerned on their behalf now, and why do you keep falling for it?
The federal government has too much internal power and influence
It gets messy when the administration ignores the rule of law and owns the judiciary enough to make it legal.
A government that detains and assaults its own citizens without justification or warrant is no longer a legitimate government and must be dismantled and replaced with a government that serves the will of its citizens.
Waiting for the first politician with power of a police department to say this. The police will likely turn on that person. But it needs to be done. States/Cities need to defend their citizens. Or at the very least show how the existing systems have failed and fallen fully to fascism.
The will of citizens comes second to the rights of all people. It wouldn't matter if 90% of the country wanted this. It would still be an unconstitutional infringement of rights.
100%. The whole point of the document was to put guardrails to override the "3 wolves and a sheep deciding on dinner" scenario.
States need to be putting out their own narratives and setting rules, not just letting the rump regime set the narrative ("Portland is burning to the ground!", "Chicago is a war zone, the most dangerous city in the world!" etc). They should use their own messaging. And states should band together to take a stand.
Here's an example of the type of propaganda and tactics that Governors, mayors, etc. should use:
"Gangs of masked criminals are running rampant, impersonating ICE officers to commit crimes against defenseless civilians, who don't know who to believe! [give an example or two]. This cannot stand--we must have law and order!
Therefore I have signed an order that our City Police (our National Guard may be called to help them if necessary) will arrest anyone who cannot show that they are an ICE or law enforcement agent. To distinguish them from the criminal gangs, Agents must wear badges in plain view to identify themselves and are prohibited from wearing masks that hide their faces. They must show valid warrants and provide their badge numbers when asked.
Anyone who cannot show they are a legal agent and acts violently toward or violates the rights of civilians may be assumed to be a criminal and be arrested. Furthermore, citizens may protect themselves or others in self-defense. If you are an ICE agent and don't display your badge, you have only yourself to blame if anyone assumes you are one of these criminal gang members and acts accordingly.
The single biggest hurdle we have is how much the media loves Donald Trump. You could have the perfect narrative that convinces 100% of viewers to switch sides and it still wouldn't matter if 3x as many people heard his lies. You'd still lose. The right owns the media at this point and there's basically no way you're reaching half of the goobers Trump is. I'd bet most Americans couldn't even name their reps.
Not suggesting you or anybody else does so, but.... If I were running a counter op, the first thing I'd do was bring down right wing media centers by targeting their transmitters. Splinter their national voice. Next you'd need to hit social media sites, but that's a different tactic where you'd essentially need a bot army to make them unusable by dumping massive amounts of AI slop nonsense (they're halfway there themselves TBH). You'd still have an uphill battle convincing the cult to switch, but at least you'd stand a chance.
It's true that the media focuses on trump. That's why the rhetoric directed at him by Newsom and Pritzker has worked to get plenty of media attention. The conflict of governors either mocking or talking tough to him and his reacting to them appeals to the media, which gives the opening for opponents to get their messaging out. Of course as you say, they'll spin it in trump's favor as best they can, but they'll report what is said.
As you say, right wing media has been a major factor getting us here, but that now includes all the corporate-owned major broadcasters, especially CBS and CNN but the others as well, not just Fox, Newsmax etc. All the major network and social media is already aligned with the regime. So it's a bit late for that.
Aren't there thousands of well trained former park rangers that need something to do & might have a bit of an axe to grind?
I know where I live they already meet all the requirements for state law enforcement. Deputize them. Have them show up anywhere ICE is, 100-200 deep. Demand to see their law enforcement credentials, every time. If they refuse, arrest them.
If they get violent, "pacify" them.
Amazing that demanding from the agencies to adhere to the rule of law makes some people really, really itchy.
Since they’re ok with stores banning masks, they would be ok with stores banning masks for people in uniform too, right?
Or would that somehow be discrimination?
It is absolutely wild to the rest of the western world that ICE agents under Trump are allowed to conduct their job masked all the time.
Literal secret police in failed state shit.
Police everywhere in the US have done it for a while, many people were beaten in 2020 by police wearing masks with their badge numbers covered, even in Democrat "sanctuary cities". Not to mention DHS and BORTAC agents which have been detaining people with masks and no identification as well. People talk about defunding ICE which needs to happen but there are several agencies waging this campaign.
Seeing what is happening reminds me of Eisenhower seeing the concentration camps for the first time and immediately calling for the media to photograph everything and for members of congress to view the atrocities in person. He knew that there might come a day when the world wanted to pretend that it never happened and insisted that there be enough evidence that there was no way anyone could deny the holocaust.
It was the greatest act by a president (in my opinion) before he even became the president.
The lesson being, everyone in these cities need to be recording everything, so that when the blatantly criminal administration and its enablers are finally held to legal account (and they will), there can be no denying what they attempted to do in America in 2025.
We need a EU Edition archive.org. Upload all evidence there. Someday Google search engine will become like Baidu and you can't find any of the massacres anymore.
Makes me think, however flawed the American democracy is, the federal set up does indeed hamper the attempts of tyrannical consolidation. Diversity is not without issues, but having enough diversity allows deviation from enforced thoughts. So diversity is indeed a strength. This is what the MAGA wants to rid.
Nothing pisses off a dictator than being told "no"
Imagine that! The consent of the governed.
This only works if they are willing to enforce it. So they would need to order and get CPD on board with arresting ICE agents. And as much as I would love to see that happen, police tend to be the biggest bootlickers of them all.
Even the mayor stated federal agents wouldn't be arrested for violating this. So it is just pointless and performative.