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[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 44 points 10 months ago

Arachnophobia is so stupid. Just let the spiders get married

[–] hissingmeerkat@sh.itjust.works 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I hate this stereotype; it blames bigotry against homosexuals on homosexuals.

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

So its not entirely just a stereotype. They have done studies on it, and it holds remarkably true. I'll see if I can find one of them for you.

Edited to add a link to the study: Homophobia study

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago (17 children)

Nah, openly gay homosexuals aren't bigoted, it's only the ones in denial.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Exactly.

It's not accusing the being gay of fucking them up, it's accusing the unhealthy repression.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gay people in denial are still gay though. If they weren't, they wouldn't be in denial

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[–] stray@pawb.social 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not blaming homosexuals in general; it's blaming specifically those homosexuals who help uphold systems of oppression. It's the same as women who uphold sexism or pickme minorities. They're using the oppression of others as a shield against their own oppression instead of joining the fight for equality.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I hope no one is saying most misogynists are secretly women.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

Steven Crowder might be, though.

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Suggesting all homophobes are gay is a great way for the straight community to avoid taking responsibility for their role in perpetrating homophobia. Most homophobes are straight haters.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Secretly gay/bisexual. Closeted. Self-hating, spreading their hate. Trying to cling onto a precarious hold on the straight lifestyle, they want to eliminate "temptation". Dudes, it's only tempting if you're already bi.

At least on the right it seems that way, with the Republican convention regularly crashing grindr.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

And that is still a fraction of the community. The fact remains straight people outnumber LGBT+ folks by a considerable margin thus most haters are just hateful straight folks.

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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's also a way to tell gay people "really, this is your fault"

[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

No "normal" person (like me!) would be homophobic, if they are homophobic they're probably "abnormal" (just like you!!!)

(sarcasm disclaimer: this is meant to be interpreted sarcastically)

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago

I've said before that the projection arguement is just used too often. Yes some of them are probably in denial about their own preferences but I would say that the vast majority are just awful people.

I think transphobics tend to have a greater chance of being trans than homophobics have been gay, possibly because homophobia is looked down on by society, (at least in the West) in a way that maybe transphobia isn't quite as much. There are countries that have legalised gay marriage, but not hormone therapy, which is just bizarre.

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[–] ChillCapybara@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a child, I was terribly afraid of spiders. Until I did a science project on them and discovered I was an arachnophile after all and I’ve never looked back.

[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 10 months ago

I'm an arachnophobe when I just walked through her web and don't know where the fuck she is. From a distance, though, I'm all 'Wow, what a wonderful creature!'

The spider spinning a web in front of my door is an asshole. The one eating things inside my house is a bro. The one guarding my rose bush is beautiful.

If you're spider-curious, take a look at Travis McEnery. If you think your an arachnophobe, check him out too; exposure therapy worked for Chill and youtube is a safe distance from the spiders.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most spiders are indeed afraid of other spiders, checkmate theists.

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[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 10 points 10 months ago

"Most" is what scares me here.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 9 points 10 months ago (17 children)

Almost like the first one isn't true either.

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This study kind of illustrates it may be true. It's not a huge sample size, but its difficult to deny there is at least a significant correlation.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I only need to open Grindr at a Republican convention to know for sure. Also, good luck with the servers not crashing.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago

That's not what the study says??

I don't have access to the full text, but it certainly doesn't state most homophobes display attraction to gay porn.

It says there is a correlation. If 5% of the population is gay and 10% of homophobes are gay, then homophobia is correlated with being gay.

But stating most homophobes are gay would require evidence that >50% are gay, not just that there exists a correlation.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

As noted, its a small sample size, and even in that sample size the homophobic participants exhibited "arousal" to all sexual stimuli.

I don't think that makes someone gay.

You also have to consider the subset of self described homophobes who would consent to having a device strapped to their genitalia while they are shown gay porn...

They may not be a representative of the larger group.

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[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Because most homophobes aren't afraid of gay people. They hate them. It's a very non descriptive labels fan is technically incorrect in most cases, though it DOES work as an insult to homophobes by making them seem like an absolute fucking wuss so I'm not in arms about that. In fact, I support it despite this fact. Fuck you, homophobes, you fucking dicks.

[–] trublu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What a homophobe is afraid of is gay men treating them the way they treat women.

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is it though?

I hate my neighbor's Chihuahua because it barks all day everyday.

Absolutely no part of me fears a dog that weighs less than 4 lbs.

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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've been married to an arachnophobe for 42 years and now I have questions.

[–] LumiNocta@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Look for telltale signs in your marriage like:

  • does it spin a web
  • does it love you
  • does it walk on the ceiling

If any of these are true you might be married to a human.

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[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 4 points 10 months ago

Most homophones are secretly homographs

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hupf@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago

The 1995 movie, yes.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok, but ewww, imagine the other way around - seeing a spider doing normal spider-bro things, but it's turns out it's a human?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 10 months ago

No, this dude gets a pass.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

Apparently, half of homophobes are gay. The other half have actual phobias about gay people.

So watch out, homophobes. Half of your friends secretly want to suck your dick.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago

Sounds like a secret spider curve ball to me

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