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[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago

minerals, maxerals...

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Months, but Day. Sept, as already pointed out. The LLM is just following suit.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago

The vibe epoch is the number of milliseconds since Wednesday

[–] pewpew@feddit.it 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Seems like a reasonable thing to bet a whole economy on. /s

I mean, back when it was a huge, poorly understood leap past previous technology it maybe was, but we know now that this is pretty much as good as it can do, just by scaling.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

It's maaagic. So much so that sometimes we don't know wtf it's doing.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Really curious in what scenarios people would be writing enums with months and weekdays.

Because short of developing yet another library to handle date and time, everything else is likely a disaster waiting to happen...

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 12 points 11 hours ago

Wrapping a blackbox/legacy system would be a good reason.

Declare the old API in your new language, warts'n'all.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of developers are not passionate, or not curious, or don't know that libraries exist, or all at once (aka stupid). I've seen this everywhere.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 27 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The developer who was there when I started my last job believed that libraries should be avoided at all costs. He wrote a CSV reader from scratch in python. It didn't work in many edge cases. He didn't like it when I pointed that out. Nor when I showed him that his "better way" in another case was more than 10x slower using a profiler... At least he was using git, but the git history was full of long series of identical commit messages unrelated to code changes, because PyCharm has an option to reuse the previous commit message on a new commit...

He eventually quit and I spent 3 years refactoring his garbage before we finally had a tech team who could take over (I'm a scientist, with self taught coding skills). Pretty sure even after we had a tech team of 7 if was still a better coder than most, purely because I was interested in how coding works, and trying to understand underlying concepts.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 23 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

because I was interested in how coding works, and trying to understand underlying concepts

Ah, yes. The secret to being better than most people at at most things. Curiosity and giving a shit.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is what I try to tell everybody who wants to do the whole "I can't understand how to use computers" schtick, and it's still often too much to handle.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, it seems that so many people are that way about so many things. And at some point I honestly thing it is bad for you.

Sometimes learning to do the thing and then doing it yourself is a FAR better experience for your well being even if you get worse results in twice the time and at double the cost versus paying somebody to do it for you.

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

My impostor syndrome is saying that I suck at everything, I just got curiosity to get over some of it..

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

I am convinced that impostor syndrome is just the other end of the spectrum from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

That doesn't necessarily mean that having impostor syndrome means you're an expert, but that you have the curiosity to look under the surface and get a glimpse of the long path ahead of you. You don't just assume you "got this" because one piece of many clicked into place.

I guess my strong impostor syndrome has mellowed over these past 5 or so years while I have been working on myself (as in mental health, not job skills, lol). Some of it is confidence gained by knowing better who I am and what I want out of life, accompanied by elimination of a lot of "I should be learning this / doing that / building my career XYZ" thoughts. And part of it is leaning into what makes me different from others at work versus the others, using that stuff as strengths rather than seeing them as deficiencies where I don't match up.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

That's the ticket to be a good software programmer, well done! 😁

[–] polle@feddit.org 2 points 12 hours ago

It will when you realize the people in your room are mostly talking but actually have no clue.

[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago

I did it once to pull out data from a spreadsheet into a database. Specifically, I needed "${DataType}${Month}" for each month for 3 different datatypes

Iirc, i used an sql pivot (or unpivot) in that query too

Usually, it's situations like this where you're parsing data from strings, and you need some glue code to interface between the input data, and the date library you're using to actually resolve the datetime

[–] emb@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Nice touch making Months plural and Day singular.

I also like how Wednessecond isn't going to be the end of the list, trailing comma is there.

Cursed.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wednesmillisecond, Wednesmicrosecond, ...

[–] Jesusaurus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wednesnanosecond, Wednespicosecond, Wednesfemtosecond, ...

[–] Wfh@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Wfh@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

Oh, it's right after Bonksday!

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Can you tell what language it is? Some allow you to have dangling commas (I, personally, hate it but it could be the end of the list, nevertheless).

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I understand the argument in favour of dangling commas, but oh gods I hate it. Aesthetically it's just so awful.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 points 6 hours ago

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[–] GreyCat@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

I fucking love dangling commas. Especially for lists of lists.

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[–] xtools@programming.dev 53 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Is it just me, or are Github Copilot and ChatGPT getting dumber? I'm quite underwhelmed lately.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There is a reason there is sometimes a notable decrease in quality of the same AI model a while after it's released.

Hosters of the models (like OpenAI or Microsoft) may have switched to a quantized version of their model. Quantization is a common practice to increase power efficiency and make the model easier to run, by essentially rounding the weights of the model to a lower precision. This decreases VRAM and storage usage significantly, at the cost of a bit of quality, where higher quantization results in worse quality.

For example, the base model will likely be in FP16, full floating point precision. They may switch to a Q8 version, which nearly halves the size of the model, with about a 3-7% decrease in quality.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Expertly explained. Thank you! It's pretty rad what you can get out of a quantized model on home hardware, but I still can't understand why people are trying to use it for anything resembling productivity.

It sounds like the typical tech industry:

"Look how amazing this is!" (Full power)

"Uh...uh oh, that's unsustainable. Let's quietly drop it." (Way reduced power)

"People are saying it's not as good, we can offer them LLM+ plus for better accuracy!" (3/4 power with subscription)

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe the more copilot is used, the more code on github is ai garbage, ths more copilot trains on github, the worse it gets.

Probably quite a lot of other things too, but I haven't used it so I don't know if it has got worse.

[–] xtools@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago

garbage in garbage out - sounds like a reasonable take

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Yeah I remember the hype floating in the air when someone showed the magic AI writing a scan all files and folders recursively code in python. The result was like of a first year student, which is kind of incredible in itself to be fair, but it's also just the result like of a first year student so...

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's been reported the latest model has been optimized for reduced power use, and abilities got reduced somewhat in the streamlining.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

I guess enshittification has been moved off the backlog then..

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago

ChatGPT has its moments but generally it creates more problems than it solves.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dont knows for these two but the enterprise version of copilot for office workers is so damn awefull its embarrassing.

It literally suggests to do stuff that it is incapable of doing.

I tried to get some doc as a flowchart using mermaid script, i know for a fact other llms have no problems with that:

After 3 attempts of it trying to code but resulting in an actual error it gives me,

Do you want me to provide this flowchart in visio format instead.

yes, if you can do that, it would be useful.

Generates a powerpoint about the topic.

that is a powerpoint, not a flowchart.

Tries to generate an image of a flowchart with not a single word spelled correctly and arrows going nowhere.

i didn’t ask to generate an image i need a flowchart

Sorry, if you want i can provide a flowchart in viso file format instead.

sure, give it another go

Generates a brand new bad PowerPoint.

I copy pasted the entire conversation to claude and it instantly gave me what i asked.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

On par for Microsoft software in general. Seems like every week I discover new bugs in outlook.com..

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

{god, god, god, season, god, god, ceaser, ceaser, number, number, number, number}

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

And not even the right numbers! Months 9, 10, 11, 12 = "7," "8," "9," "10."

Days of the week = celestial body, celestial body, god, god, god, god, celestial body

[–] SethranKada@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is that the only one with four letters? How cruel. Lol.

[–] dontsayaword@piefed.social 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We'll fix it next Wednesminute

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just give me a Wednessecond.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The client asked for this last Wednesweek!

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If this deal falls through, we're not going to make our Wednesquarterly numbers!

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[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

its an enum; write the whole fucking thing, please.

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[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago

It's like Excel is in my code editor.

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