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[–] markz@suppo.fi 131 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We and our 938 partners value your privacy

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (4 children)

“Babe, but it feels better without a condom.”

[–] msage@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just one of the many perks of a stable monogamous relationship.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

We and our 938 partners value your health.

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

And all of them have stellar security. No data ever leaks anywhere.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

And don't forget these partners have other partners of their own.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunately this is just the state of the web in the modern day. Virtually every site exists to serve you ads while simultaneously collecting your data and selling it to their "partners" in exchange for their content.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I would love to see any actual verifiable positive ROI numbers directly linked to or resultant from the money a company spent to purchase these targeted ads.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's the neat part, you can't, because the companies that run ad networks (e.g. Google and Meta) intentionally make the consumer behaviours market as opaque as possible. As the market maker, they have an economic incentive to withold information from their customers, because any mistakes from market participants due to information assymetries directly translate to profit surplus for the market maker.

We have long since moved on from simple pay per click/view pricing models to pay per "impression," the definition of which is not clear even to the companies that purchase the ads.

And in a somewhat ironic twist, one of the motivations for such extensive surveillance is the desire to quantify such ROIs. Statistics and analytics such as click through and conversion rates all require tracking user behaviour across vast networks.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've always thought (anecdotally - no substantiating evidence) that advertising on the internet, which is much different that advertising in a magazine or billboard, is probably a loss leader or close to it. The real value for the product manufacturer is the data they steal from you. In all honesty, I can't think of a product or service I've purchased that was based on an advertisement. 99.999% of the time, I know what I need or have a really good idea, and will research it on the internet extensively, depending on value, and make my purchase based on my research. It also could be that I have made it a concerted effort to never see any online advertisements on my network, so maybe I am not as affected as those who see ads in every square inch of their monitor every day, like they're on a porn site.

Network so tight I call it virgin. /s

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But the whole purpose of stealing your data is to better serve you ads. So I’m not seeing anywhere in your argument that shows actual profit.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Well, it wasn't so much an argument as it was a muse. I'm not a marketing guru and again, I am expert at nothing.I do run several businesses, but word of mouth is my advertisement.

The purpose of an advertisement, say in a magazine or on a billboard, is to sell you goods or services. Those goods or services are '$Price A' which is cost to manufacture, taxes/applicable fees, plus overhead and profit. On the internet, yet another element is added and a very invasive element: Data Collection & Brokering. So, without even selling you goods or services, the company in question is making bonus bucks from collecting your data and using it/selling/trading it. So, on the internet, the company in question is double dipping IMHO. Once for enticing you to buy their goods or services, and the most nefarious IMHO, collecting your data via all manner of sneaky ways. So, it seems to me, whether or not they sell you a product or service, they're already making bank on a global scale, and not affording you due compensation for creating the data in the first place. Creating takes labor and labor is compensated with $$. If it means billions of dollars to the company in question, then it's worth a lot to little ol' me. Even if it were just clicking a mouse or typing on a keyboard, your data has high value, and they know it.

I call this data theft. It is the very same offense if I walked into the CEO's office of a fore mentioned corporation, and picked up a paper weight, stuck it in my pocket, and walked out the door. It's data theft. Now it may be the bowl talking so feel free to spool me right up if I have err'd in my thought process.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It also could be that I have made it a concerted effort to never see any online advertisements on my network.

Well ya. This is like saying you don't get why guns are dangerous and then mentioning how you have bullet proof windows.

The whole scheme breaks apart if you block the constant images trying to make you buy things. I see it affecting others, no one in their right mind would buy a 100k car if it wasn't for ads imo.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not only that, but literally the only reason we even have these popups now is because of recent European laws

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I mean the alternative is that they simply sell it without your consent.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah that's my point

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[–] jesale@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 month ago

938 customers, the users are the product

[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

Because you are the product.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

In a literal sense. They're putting a price on your privacy, and there are 938 buyers.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The 938 partners who really really Really REALLY fucking hate you

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We value your privacy, that's why we'll sell your data to anyone that is willing to pay us money. We will sell it to literally a thousand different companies which will mix and match and resell you data to thousands more

It so so so so extremely angers me that companies ALWAYS FUCKING LIE.

We value your privacy

FUCK YOU YOU DO NOT

We're pissing u on your back and we tell you that you're getting a refreshing shower, please thank us for this insult!

Just be fucking honest that you don't give a shit, money is your only bottom line, and you would rape and murder my mother if you even thought it would make you money. Fuck all of you

I want a law that says that companies cannot behave like this. You cannot say "your call is important to us" every 2 minutes while I've been waiting on the phone for three hours to be able to return your piece of shit product that arrived broken, but you were too cheap to invest in basic customer support.

I want marketing and advertising outlawed. Completely. It's allowed for companies to lay out their products, but you're not. allowed. to. lie. No "we're the best!" Fuck you, you're the absolute worst. A company like Comcast should be forbidden from claiming they're good at anything as they suck at everything and only manage to continue to exist because of fucking lying through their teeth with their marketing.

these sort of shit popups is just the next logical step that starts literally with the first words being an absolute lie

Fuck this shit

[–] tlmcleod@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

They do value our privacy, but they just mean they're putting a $ amount on it, not that they care about it

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 23 points 1 month ago

It's almost like they don't really value your privacy

[–] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We value your privacy

And this is why we are going to violate it in every way possible!

[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

They are honest, but not very clear. We could rewrite that as "we assigned monetary value to your privacy"

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

It reminds me of

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To give you a better personalized experience™ of course!

Just block the partners, should still work. All of the anime pirating sites are riddled with ads.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

All of the anime pirating sites are riddled with ads.

As if the commercial sites were any better...

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[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

They took harem anime's to heart?

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

hehe... you TOO can become a partner! We're having a special! Anyone willing to pay for partnership access coincidentally gets an unrelated trove of personal data!

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

dw about it, your data will be safe amongst their friends! MyAnimeList and their 938 closest friends :)

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is anime-planet which I use. There's also anilist. Don't know how private either of them are.

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

Anilist & Kitsu. (Kitsu is OpenSource, I think)

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Livechart.me ?

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

MyPartnerList

[–] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Turn on the 'Cookie notices' filter lists in Ublock Origin.

[–] JanUwU42@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

Switch to Anilist ^^ Many FOSS Apps available :)

Switching is super easy

[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've been using https://kitsu.app/ for over 11 years.

That said, it's a bit janky. There are some minor bugs that will likely never get fixed because it's on a shoestring budget.

You can always import/export your library as XML though, so you can go back and forth between Kitsu and MAL.

[–] Red5@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Self hosting a media tracker is an option. Ryot is great, others are available. It allows imports from myanimelist

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks for highlighting that.

The same way IMDB has https://imdbapi.dev/ or https://www.omdbapi.com/ (which I did use for a bit) is there an equivalent, namely MyAnimeList DB or API?

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