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Scientists Have Reported a Breakthrough In Understanding Whale Language::Researchers have identified new elements of whale vocalizations that they propose are analogous to human speech, including vowels and pitch.

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[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hell yeah, I hope it works for orcas too so I can thank the ones that have been trashing the yachts.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 years ago

How do I say “I support my seafaring cetacean brethren” in Orca?

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm learning how to sail right now. It would be great to have that sorted out before I make my way by Gibraltar.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Huge rock, can't miss it.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago

Follow the stars and don't look down

[–] childOfMagenta@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Don't blast heavy metal.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So what I'm hearing is they can literally talk to each other in a way that we do and we still kill them constantly.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We kill humans constantly too, and we probably obliterated the rest of the hominins also. I’m just saying we have a chequered track record.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] theherk@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

While I always love a Mitchell and Webb reference, I can say I don’t think so. I think the book Humanity by Rutger Bregman is a good reminder that we are mostly good.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Agreed. It's just that it's really easy for a small amount of people to do a lot of bad things. It's hard to maintain, harder to build, and easy to destroy.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

However take in context that it's written by a human. Of course we will say we're mostly good. If Pol Pot wrote a book about Pol Pot he'd probably say he was mostly good too.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well believe it or not the book isn’t one page whose entire contents read “We’re good”. It is a whole well reasoned length of prose supporting that with reason.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I understand but it's written by us lol. Not that any other creature can write a book but consider the absurdity for a moment. We are saying we're mostly good.

[–] pacific@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] pigup@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I share this understanding with you and this is why I say that AI will absolutely kill us because that is what we would do. It's trained on our data afterall.

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[–] Haggunenons@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago

This is big news! We've got a lemmy community specifically about Digital Bioacoustics (technology and animal communication) for anyone interested.

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“I wish I could speak whale!” - Dory

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Oooooooookayyyyyyy

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

"So Long, and thanks for all the fish"

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What they're saying is: "All shall perish" as they proceed to kill people and smash yachts.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago

Flippity floppity y'all on my property

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

More of a yacht rock thing.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They probably have nothing interesting to say anyway. After a year or two all the scientists will be like "I fucking know you like krill, whale. Shut the fuck up about the krill already".

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

[Arthur Dent] learned to communicate with birds and discovered that their conversation was fantastically boring. It was all to do with wind speed, wingspans, power-to-weight ratios, and a fair bit about berries.

-- Douglas Adams, 'Life, the Universe, and Everything.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I kind of still want to know what I'm sleeping to.

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Can I try putting it in your blowhole this time?"

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No Frank, idw Whale cum in my lung again.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To a whale, whale cum is just regular cum.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Inspirational Quote Of The Day

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago
[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Uh-oh. Risa's leaking again.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] RalphFurley@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

They're still using money. We've got to get some.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How did you know Gracie's pregnant? Nobody knows that!

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[–] aidan@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

If complete mutually intelligible communication of complex ideas with another species is undeniably proven, that will be a massive boon for veganism(although of course not all animals are equal), and a legal quagmire. What do you do if they are suffering in ways that we can fix due to their environment? Like humans were, and then we changed our environment. Do you give whales weapons so they can defend themselves from orcas? Do you shoot whale pochers? Do you shoot orcas attacking whales? Do you farm krill for them to eat? Do you drastically alter the ocean surface to be more comfortable for whales?

After all, most people recognize it as good to alter a person's natural state(hunting and gathering from caves) for the better, so would that not be the same for animals that are considered essentially people or near-people?

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago

We don't even treat other humans on earth with dignity and respect and you think anything will change for whales as drastically as you propose? Maybe I'm mega jaded but I see this having little impact.

[–] Dazawassa@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Last time I checked you don't eat abstract linguistic concepts.

Abstract linguistic concepts ensure you can eat.

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[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

"Who turned up the heat?"

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Just in time for them to go extinct. It’ll be helpful in a few hundred years though when we need to travel back in time again.

[–] SpezBroughtMeHere@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

They been talking to Dory?

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] andxz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of mine too. It's a little scary seeing the things they got right so far.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It wasn't a great show and I didn't binge watch it, but I'm glad I ignored all the hate about it I read eventually. I really liked the drone defection plotline and the whale episode I feel is up there with some of the best Black Mirror stuff.

There was very much morale ambiguity of the "good" characters as well, it wasn't all pro-environmentalist guys are all heroes, there was definitely eco-terrorism.

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