this post was submitted on 30 Dec 2025
142 points (99.3% liked)

Technology

41112 readers
340 users here now

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.

Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 31 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 55 points 3 days ago

So .. now we have plausible gibberish .. also known as Autocorrect on Steroids .. that includes corporate sponsorship.. seems like we're moving closer to the true meaning of advertising with every iteration.

Next we'll be asked to pay for this feature .. oh wait.

I can't wait until the Assumed Intelligence bubble finally bursts and takes with it some of the largest companies in the world .. perhaps this is how we finally address climate change.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

I'd post one of Facebook's "Imagine" images as a joke but it sort of defeats the purpose. So imagine I did it. Feel free to leave the tap on while you do if you really wanna get the full experience.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 17 points 3 days ago

Is it still enshittification if it was already shit?

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 7 points 3 days ago

Wow, so unexpected. Who could have seen this coming? 🙄

At least Google had the decency to write "sponsored" on the sponsored results, but with this it's not even an option.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If you were trying to link to an article, you just linked to an image.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's not visible via lemmy.today's Web UI:

https://lemmy.today/post/44629301

Checking whether it's just lemmy.today somehow mangling things, it doesn't look like it. Here's beehaw.org's Web UI directly:

https://beehaw.org/post/23981271

As of the moment, both are a link to an image (though lemmy.today is proxying the link to that image):

https://fedia.io/media/93/77/937761715da35c5c9fb1267e65b4ea54c2b649c2eebbf8ce26d2b4cba20097bf.jpg

Same behavior seen when browsing lemmy.today in Eternity.

EDIT: Fedia.io is running mbin. You submitted it via fedia.io. This community is on beehaw.org. I wonder if there was some kind of recent mbin/lemmy compatibility bug? I'd check fedia.io's Web UI, but it currently disallows anonymous browsing (probably because of all the AI web scrapers hammering Threadiverse instances that allow anonymous access).

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Might be due to OP being on fedia.io? I can’t access the original post (it wants a login), but the link shows up fine for me on Piefed.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Great minds think alike. Yeah, just followed up with a similar comment. So probably a bug, but not sure whether it's an mbin or Lemmy bug. Like you, I can also see the intended URL on PieFed (olio.cafe).

EDIT: Same problem on lemmy.ml, and they're the dev instance, run the latest version of Lemmy:

https://lemmy.ml/post/41016280

EDIT2: I submitted a post to !lemmy_support@lemmy.ml at https://lemmy.ml/post/41019532 to make the devs aware of the interaction, if they weren't already.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 4 points 3 days ago

There's not for me but it's probably the app formatting, using Summit rn, I'll check with Thunder

[–] Janx@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] moseschrute@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Blorp dev here. Looks like it might be an instance thing. On PieFed.social I'm seeing the article, but on Lemmy.zip I'm only seeing an image. PieFed.social is returning separate urls for post url and post thumbnail, but Lemmy.zip returns the same image url for post url and post thumbnail. I'm not sure if it's a PieFed/Lemmy issue or just happens to be that the two instances I tested are working that way.

[–] vermaterc@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

...and despite that people are upvoting, because who cares about facts, let's just hate a thing that I don't like

[–] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Facts like: they fixed the link to the factual article before your comment?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

It's not fixed, I also get this problem atm

[–] towerful@programming.dev 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Omg, even the thing that is enshittifying everything is now being enshittified itself.

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago

The fact that ads will be injected in LLM was clear. I just thought Google would do it first in their AI responses.

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.world 7 points 3 days ago

I’d wager anything this won’t even slow down the “artists” that use it.

[–] Jtzl@beehaw.org 10 points 3 days ago

That is straight-up nightmarish.

Like, people, it predicts the next “token” — referring to that as intelligence is way overstating it. I, too, think “AI” is impressive, but to say companies are overstating its capabilities is putting it lightly.

[–] Janx@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago

"Hey, you know that chat bot that's churning through billions in money and drinkable water every year to guess the answers to questions, lie, hallucinate, and gaslight false info? You know, the one that will never be profitable, but every giant company has a hard-on for, despite almost no one liking it...? What if we made it even more unreliable and inaccurate, by forcing in Corporate Answers™. And yeah, the customer still has to pay for it..."

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We really need yet another advertising vector. Not.

[–] Jtzl@beehaw.org 4 points 3 days ago

I think I heard about some dystopian story when I was a kid, and the premise was ads on the inside of your eyelids while you slept. Now, that’d be called “innovation.” 🤦‍♂️

[–] miellaby@jlai.lu 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I accept my load of hallucinations and disguised approximations in exchange of relatively adfree neutral answers. That's the only reason why I don't go back on Google/DuckDuck for now. But as soon as I'll see corporate bullshit forced into my chat, that'll mark the end of my chat bot use

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 1 points 3 days ago

You think we'll still have Google and DuckDuckGo to go back to?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

I've been saying this for a while. It's gonna be particularly difficult to get valuable insight. With sponsored search results you can keep scrolling. Sponsored content will "pollute" the context of the conversation even if only some responses push sponsors.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 3 days ago

Then it starts hallucinating and gives an ad for a non existing product with a dead link. Advertisers get mad and threaten to sue.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 3 days ago

As someone who is not anti-tool just because big companies and capitalism are misusing said tool (that's a 'big companies' and 'capitalism' issue that applies to far more than LLMs), this seems like a non-starter for any business use of the platform.

Enterprise tools definitely have an expectation of 1) not having ads placed in them, and 2) not having their users tracked for third-party data sale, not because they love their employees, but because they're scared one could infer proprietary business information via user metadata correlation. No company wants their new product to be "blown" early because their devs' internet activity was aggregated and the product inferred, or worse to have a competitor get the jump on them because of it. Most companies begrudgingly accept use of e.g. Google, but corporate policies will absolutely limit the kind of information you can put in a Google search. ChatGPT is just by its nature much more likely to end up getting proprietary data put in (because it's a 'conversation').

The "promise" that OpenAI will only use said data to target ads is laughable, even if OpenAI believes it.

[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Neo: Yeah. Well, that sounds like a pretty good deal. But I think I may have a better one. How about, I give you the finger
[He does]
Neo: and you give me my phone call.

Screengrab from The Matrix: Neo giving the finger to Agent Smith.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 days ago

could

This was the whole point of it from the start (subscriptions don't mean non-ady enshitification).

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Getting harder to afford the setup, but there's very compelling reasons to use local models instead