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[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't want to die but I cannot live like this.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I know what you mean. I just wanted a quiet retirement and visit national park for the rest of my life. I really don't know what to do. I have only been up for an hour and the headlines have already made me sick. America is being held by fascists and it seems 2/3rd do not give a single fuck with half of those just fine with the boot.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Who were they going to get? A kid? Or better yet, a teacher? A coach, a school janitor or bus driver?

Perhaps the public should re-examine the premise of why they hate “criminal” immigrants so much…

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There is nothing shocking about this. What is surprising is why the hell aren't local police not arresting their asses. ICE has shown they do not give a fuck about the well being of police officers and treat them like they are inferior. ICE is no match for the police department of any city.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's because the police support ice. acab

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not all cops bastards but too many cops are bastards

[–] rarsamx@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I originally thought not ACAB, but until the "good cops" start arresting the "bad apples", corrupt, prepotent, wife beaters, drug traffickers, sleazy, etc. I will conclude ACAB.

The only ones who get arrested are those who commit egregious offences that the public are aware of and leadership cannot swipe under the rug. And then the "Investigation" shows that there were already multiple reports of previous wrong doing and that their bosses and other cops already knew.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/elston-bostock-winnipeg-police-constable-pleads-guilty-dealing-drugs-9.7033645

Was he the "bad apple" or was it the whole force which knew what he was doing?

You'd need a police force with zero bad apples for me to believe that not ACAB.

We need to accept that to really fix the situation.

I grew up in mexico where corruption is endemic. One day, my mom was complaining about corruption pointing fingers. I told her that I left mexico because it's impossible to live there without being corrupt. That, if you give money to a corrupt police officer or any other bureaucrat you are corrupt, and most of the time it's not even a choice. If you didn't report wrong doing because "nothing will be done" you are corrupt.

So, It's my observation that ACAB.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I agree with you, well said

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

"A few bad apples spoil the bunch."

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just like all generalizations, there are of course exceptions. But I’m still not giving any of them the benefit of the doubt, cops are an enemy as far as I’m concenered.

[–] rarsamx@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There aren't exceptions when the "good cops" are turning a blind eye on the "bad apples".

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

I mean, I had an uncle who was a good guy. He ended up quitting the force and bought a boat to sail around the world. He was a decent one.

There are always outliers, so I have no doubt there are some decent folks who joined to make an actual difference. There might even be a few who managed to hold onto that drive. But they are part of a corrupt system, peered with power hungry morons. So I have no compunction saying that all cops are bastards.

Every group has outliers, it’s the sycophants who will always try to point out the minuscule good in the sea of evil as a means to whitewash the black stains. We aren’t stupid, we know that acab doesn’t mean every single cop walks I lockstep, it’s an observation of the system as a whole.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

who do you think the LEO support.

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This should still shock all of us

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

in reality the sexist, racist men dint want a black/indian woman as a president, they use excuses.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There was more than that to her unpopularity, honestly. We need to be a little more serious about what lead us to this place if we hope to avoid another loss, if we get the chance to run a candidate again.

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[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

This is what Americans sign up for every day they choose not to act.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That protestor was fortunate that he wasn't shot in the face.

On a side note, if you're participating in a protest, please wear reasonable shoes or even steel-toed boots, not SANDALS. This request is for your own safety, I'm not the fashion police.

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

And especially don't wear socks with sandals!

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

You’d think we’d have more Dexter Morgan’s out there salivating over this shit.

[–] SleeplessCityLights@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A reminder to all US residents for when you are close to an ICE vehicle. If it is a low vehicle such as a car, if they try to run you over by going forward, you will be thrown over the hood and likely to be okay, but vehicles that are higher or the back of a car will suck you under. Don't stand behind an ICE vehicle or in front off an ICE truck/suv. It is safest from the side or the front of an ICE car. However check to see if the steering tires are straight because if it reverses and turns hard, it can suck you under the side.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

You'll only go over the hood if they're traveling at a decent clip, ironically. I wouldn't have that as your Plan A.

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 304 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

the school went on lockdown after federal agents were spotted in the area

I just want to call attention to the fact that this is where we are as a country. The mere presence of federal employees is causing schools to go into lockdown.

If that's not a clear indication that things are broken, I don't know what is.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Shitler’s Gestapo terrorizing kids. On brand for the kiddie rapist cult

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

Edited. Thanks for letting me know.

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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 171 points 2 days ago (8 children)

“They don’t care. They’re just animals. I’ve never seen people behave like this.

You know it’s fucking dire if someone that works at a school says that.

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[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The behaviour of ice and the dhs fits the definition of terrorism: "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims". State terrorism is still terrorism.

Nazi Germany prior to the Reichstag fire was kinda like the usa now: thugs on the street harassing civilians of chosen outgroups without consequences, but the government was still ostensibly obeying laws and not yet mass disappearing people. I think usa republicans aren't ready yet to have their Reichstag fire moment, but it just seems like a matter of time. Their expansion of ice seems pretty much unopposed & their take over of government agencies + army/navy appears to be progressing steadily as well.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

Our Reichstag fire was long ago, and it's not about "Republicans".

The response to 9-11 is what some consider to be the "turning point", the Patriot Act and what it created was a point of no return. (it made ICE, a surveillance state, Guantanamo concentration camp, and so much more). There is no better environment for fascism, it approves and supports fascism by design.

If you somehow erased every Republican tomorrow, that fascist surveillance police state would remain, waiting to be used in the only way it can be used.

Democrats won't save you

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

oh yea, and the Ds never immediately repeal the things bush did in his 2 terms, they JUST KEPT IT around, as if like they need the thing to keep the masses complicit.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 56 points 2 days ago (14 children)

💀

I remember was just in highschool like during the first trump admin...

This is beyond cooked. My grades was already has Cs and Ds, if this shit happened when I was in highschool, this is just guranteeing that I get all Fs. I'd be too scared to go to school as an immigrant (legal btw).

What the fuck.

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (50 children)

For all the larpers here demanding violent response, here's the link to Judge Karen Immergut's final decision of November 7, 2025 kicking the National Guard out of Portland, Oregon.

https://www.opb.org/pdf/FINDINGS%20OF%20FACT%20AND%20CONCLUSIONS%20OF%20LAW_1762564569662.pdf

You don't have to read the whole thing. In fact, you don't have to read more than the first (long) paragraph to understand that the courts are still largely defending the Constitution, and that it was the lack of violent response to Trump's provocations that caused her to rule against keeping the National Guard in Portland. I've added line breaks, but this is the first paragraph:

On September 27, 2025, the President of the United States federalized 200 members of the Oregon National Guard over the objection of Oregon’s governor and deployed them to a single federal building in Portland, Oregon. In the ensuing days, the President ordered the deployment of 400 federalized members of the Texas and California National Guards, all to the same federal building in Oregon. The mission of these deployments of military troops was ostensibly to quell violent protests outside the one-block Immigration and Customs Enforcement (“ICE”) building in Portland.

But after a three-day trial that included the testimony of federal, state, and local law enforcement officials and hundreds of exhibits describing protest activity outside the Portland ICE building, the evidence demonstrates that these deployments, which were objected to by Oregon’s governor and not requested by the federal officials in charge of protection of the ICE building, exceeded the President’s authority.

While violent protests did occur in June, they quickly abated due to the efforts of civil law enforcement officers. And since that brief span of a few days in June, the protests outside the Portland ICE facility have been predominately peaceful, with only isolated and sporadic instances of relatively low-level violence, largely between protesters and counter-protesters.

When considering these conditions that persisted for months before the President’s federalization of the National Guard, this Court concludes that even giving great deference to the President’s determination, the President did not have a lawful basis to federalize the National Guard under 10 U.S.C. § 12406. (emphases and line breaks added by me)

And then, specifically BECAUSE of the non-violent response of Portland, in every successive paragraph Judge Immergut labeled the order to move the National Guard into Portland UNLAWFUL.

A violent response is NOT the answer at this point in time. I guarantee we will ALL know when it is. Save your shot.

In the meantime, my fellow countrymen, beware of larpers who don't even live in the US, much less in Minneapolis, trying to whip up rage and get people to fight. It's not their blood that will be shed, not their families destroyed, not the last shreds of their democracy thrown into the cesspit of an impotent orange excrescence's lust for power and unending greed: it will be our own.

If you're here to say you think people should fight, all you're really telling me is that you've never had to fight, you don't know how it works, you won't be the one to pay the price in your own blood, AND you want Trump to consolidate his power even faster than he already is by giving him reason to occupy cities with the National Guard, declare martial law, and avoid having midterm elections. Think twice.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Canadian here: it is important to us that you resist your fascist regime. We need you to do that just as much you need to do that for yourselves. It is also extremely important to deeply understand that resistance is NOT a binary switch that flips between "nothing" and "armed resistance". At this stage in the game, in the US, you guys need to be doing a whole lot more of non-armed and institutional resistance. You need extreme pettiness. Make the trumpofascists pay a price in annoyance every step of the fucking way.

For example, call your senators and congresspeople, even the more radical left ones, and ask them why they are not calling for votes for every fucking little thing that depends on unanimity.. Then threaten to primary those that don't. RESIST OR GET OUT OF THE WAY.

Then, the question goes to the mayors the ones that bluster with "gtfo ICE". Why are they not doing road reconstruction in front and round ICE facilities? Why are there no incessant pipe maintenance requests at the sewers and cables and water mains that feed those compounds? RATFUCK THEM.

Then the question goes to the merchants. Why are there no "we don't sell to ICE" signs on shops around their compounds? Why is it commercially viable to NOT have a policy like that? Why are they contracting work to them? Why is any private entity in the ICE supply chain not being constantly threatened with boycotts and divestment? MAKE IT TOXIC TO WORK WITH THEM.

Do I need to keep going, or do people get the idea?

Beyond that, realize that you have to start small, then build up: https://youtu.be/vvaquOcNEKI Armed resistance is the worst case scenario endgame. Not the start.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As an outsider; there's always plenty of trolls out there, but I think a lot of the recent calls for violence stem from tons of people outside being really scared right now. The head of the state of USA just kidnapped a leader of another nation in a military operation and is threatening to attack and conquer part of another sovereign state, which even has been allied with USA for a long time. So from Europe especially it looks like your country has turned on us and become a real threat, and you are lead by unhinged megalomaniac controlling the worlds largest army, that might actually do as he says; collapse NATO and start another great war.

Seeing video footage of someone being brutally murdered by the state has truly shocked people in my country as well - something like that is incredibly alarming, and combined with your leaders threats of war, to us it basically looks like fascists have taken over your country already. Considering the history of ww2 and the rise of nazis is still well known and remembered in Europe, it's easy to jump into conclusions about where this seems to be leading into, since we are barely getting news about any resistance happening.

All this combined with scared people thus logically ends up with pleas to do anything to stop ww3 from happening, since it is your country threatening to start it

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