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I swear this push for protein (and they seem to specifically fixate on animal-based) is like they're trying to do a speedrun climate collapse.
... and public health catastrophe of cardiopulmonary disease & colorectal cancer
https://youtube.com/watch?v=485Em2JF34M
(Sleeper -- healthy food & smoking. A classic)
RFK Jr-approved!
It's trying to handle ozempic diets.
People on ozempic have much lower appetites than normal and it is affecting their protein intake. Meal items like this are meant to appeal to those looking for a quick protein bump.
Back in my day you just blended powder into a smoothie, but apparently that's too much work.
I for one would much rather eat actual food than a protein shake. I get so sick of those things even when I vary how I make them.
Beans are a better protein source because you get fiber too and fiber is really the thing people lack in their diet. Also, no living creature is harmed in the process.
Except the beans but they’re bastards anyway.
Can we talk about insoluble fiber for a second?
A discount grocery store near me had 3 for $1 turnip greens. I ate then all over two days along with some homemade chicken stock I needed to use. What came out of me the next day was some kind of lovecraftian sleep paralysis demon. But holy shit have I been feeling great ever since! I sleep easier and longer, more energy throughout the day without a mainline of caffeine, and I think I've actually lost some weight dispite not actively trying to!
Y'all mfers need ~~Jesus~~fiber!
Beans are great, but you need to eat 7 cups of beans, ~1.75 Litres of beans to get 100g of protein.
Even if you're vegetarian there are better sources of protein then that.
Noone is saying get all your protein from beans. Maybe 25 grams from beans is doable, then have some yogurt, some whole wheat pasta/bread stuff, a few eggs. Variety in your diet and whole foods are more important than hitting specific macros as you get a good range of micronutrients, fibre and your gut microbiome is happier.
Lol I know, but they were essentially making the point that beans are just an overall better protein source.
Now, don't get me wrong, beans are a great and nutritious food, and a good source of protein, but if you're analyzing them just as a protein source, then they're just objectively not as good as most meats, or like you pointed out, eggs.
I do agree that you should want to eat a healthy and balanced diet with a large variety, but at the end of the day macros do still matter, especially if you need to gain or maintain muscle mass. That can be because you're an athlete, or because you're over /under weight, or because you're elderly and need to prevent muscle mass loss to maintain the rest of your health, or if it's because your sick or recovering from an injury. In all those situations, where macros do actually matter, then it's perfectly possible to gain muscle while eating vegetarian or vegan, but just normal beans are not the protein source to do it. You're either going to want to eat quite a decent number of eggs on the reg, or supplement with a concentrate like whey or pea protein powder.
My point is just that beans are not an equivalent protein source to meat, and there's no point pretending like they are. No one is going to fall for it and suddenly convert. You'll have more success convincing people to go meat free by actually giving them viable alternatives, not gas lighting them.
I understand, but my problem is with influencers pushing only (animal) protein without considering other dietary factors important to health.
For protein sources, a quick look online says seitan, quinoa and nuts (for vegans) and eggwhites, cottage cheese (for vegetarians) are your most efficient options looking at protein per 100 grams. If you prefer lower calorie foods, beans, green veggies and mushrooms are also good options (high protein percentage but you have to eat a lot). For a high protein diet, especially for veggie/vegans it's generally better to replace every meal with one slightly higher in protein than to try to add one foodstuff to your diet to achieve it all. For example quinoa or whole wheat options for your rice/pasta. Adding lentils to your tomato sauce and yogurt with nuts/seeds instead of cornflakes will get most people a very long way.
I could probably handle a handle of beans in a day, but I'm not sure if it'll go as well if I keep forgetting to pour out the vodka before beaning the handle
Pff, be down wind after dinner and tell me no living creature was harmed 😁
But seriously, beans are great!
Ten or so years ago in fitness circles, the "hack" was to go to Chipotle and get just a double serving of steak a la carte. It was a cheap way to get a really good amount of protein when you were out.
Can't have anything without capitalists running it into the ground for profit.
Haha! I was going to share this as well!
We used to go to Qdoba, chipotle, Baja fresh and just order pure ingredients! It's not on the menu, and it was like $2-3. Used to order that, make my own rice, veggies, etc... and feed all my roommates for the same price as a burrito combo.
Just (finally) got a digital pressure cooker.
Bro, Pulled pork BBQ just whenever the fuck I want it for $10.
This slop? This ass food? Nah. It ain't even meat. Fuck that. Make a roast, do a brisket, you can do it!
It's the next obvious step in the burrito nihilism movement. First we ate burritos and tacos and the world made sense. Then everyone decided burritos were too convenient and portable so they started getting deconstructed burrito "bowls." Then carbs were bad so they removed the rice. Now we are in the final act, where they also remove the vegetables, cheese and sauce. Because nothing matters, life has no meaning and the world has gone mad.
I miss bone in burritos, they really aren't the same without having to eat around the bone
Popcorn chicken has been sold like this for as long as I can remember. They aren't even innovating.
I eat more fast food than anybody I know.
I tried the Arby's steak nuggets for science. They were absolutely abysmal and I cannot understand what morons let them become a menu item. They are easily in the top five for the worst fast food item I have ever had in my entire life.
They could have had country fried steak nuggets with soy protein to bind it together and it would have been killer. This was food waste with a glaze.
This was food waste with a glaze.
You mean BBQ sandwiches? I worked at a Rax (like Arbys, with a salad bar) - the meat scraps and leftovers were thrown in a tub, covered in sauce, stuck in the cooler and sold as BBQ for the next day or so.
Slop Bowls 2: Protein Boogaloo
Would you like a side of EXTRA BIG-ASS FRIES????
I've ate the Chipotle cup of chicken last night. Not bad, shared some w my pitbulls.
I had the fresh meat nuggets from chik fila two days ago. Not bad, not great.
I don't order this, but if my wife is bringing home slop from those stores....this is all ill tolerate.
99% of food is tastier, cheaper and more nutritious home cooked. That's not new.
This reminds me of the "Big Gulp" 64oz of soda for 0.99 days - basically when sugar was replaced with HFCS and the price of soda syrup fell through the floor.
We've been automating factory production of chicken and pork for a while now, gotta sell it somewhere.
Can I get a great big cup of cancer please, and fries, with with a cup of fizzy flavored HCFS, no ice. Thanks.
I want to start by saying I generally agree with the theme of the article that the average American already gets enough protein without needing to specifically target it in fast food. However, I think this is not entirely accurate:
Overall recommendations have consistently hovered between 50-70 grams [of protein] per day, depending on weight.
That sounds low to me. I've seen nutritionist recommended minimums in the 50-70 range depending on weight, height, gender, and age, but recommended targets are higher. Especially for older men who are at higher risk of muscle loss with age, these recommended targets can be above 90 grams.
Edit: Getting several down votes, so let's add some sources.
0.8g per kg of weight, which comes out to about 55g per day for a 150 lb person, is a minimum, not an average: https://doi.org/10.3945/an.116.013821
Aging men may need to consume as much as 2g per kg of weight, which comes out to about 135g for a 150 lb man: https://doi.org/10.3390/nu10030360