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I woke up today, to a public comment in a Lemmy community asking a series of tagged accounts why they had downvoted certain posts

I thought that reactions to posts and comments are anonymous and now I don't really know what to feel about Lemmy any more.

In this case I had downvoted a poster because of its design, but was confronted publicly for being racist because the person assumed that I downvoted the message on the poster

EDIT: changed the title from "How" to "Why" because it broke rule nr 5 about it being a support question

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 minutes ago

If someone is posting about you downvoting them, then they're a seriously flawed individual. Some people will take any reason they can to call other people racist. I think it's a fetish, honestly.

You're fine.

[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 1 points 27 minutes ago

Up voting for good discussion.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

I would like if vote counts weren't shown until after you voted, so it doesn't influence your opinion

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 1 points 27 minutes ago

You can vote and change your vote. It would be a useless feature.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Much easier to determine vote manipulation when there is no central authority to handle it and the votes, as well as moderation actions, are publicly visible.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 33 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I just block anyone who confronts me about why I voted a certain way. "Because I felt like it, fuck off cunt" is my go-to justification.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 2 points 27 minutes ago

Does that happen?

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I just blocked my votes from federating. it's nobody's business what I upvote.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If your votes don't federate then they have no effect other than you seeing the arrow light up.

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 3 points 54 minutes ago

Everyone from my instance sees my votes. Which are the people who matter to me. Federate means between instances. A fair portion of our communities are similar, only allowing downvotes from members of trusted instances, which in our case are, dbzer0 and quokk.au. I believe we also opted out of Lemvotes as well.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

I like your style

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 28 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

The protocol is ActivityPub not ActivityPriv

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (4 children)

I'm pretty sure the Pub doesn't stand for Public, but rather Publish.

edit: not saying that it is private, just my opinion on whether the pub is an adjective or a verb

[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Still Publish, not Privish.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

You are right but you can’t exactly publish something and expect it to be private

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

And what does publishing something do? Does it make it widely available to the public?

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 2 points 4 hours ago

Indeed it does. However my intention was to say that Pub in ActivityPub is most likely not an adjective (public), but a verb (publish).

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[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

This one is gold :)

[–] K3can@lemmy.radio 13 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Isn't the Fediverse supposed to be open?

You can show your personal support for something by upvoting it or your opposition to something by downvoting it, but if you don't want to take a stance on something at all, you don't have to.

It's an entirely optional mechanic. You can fully utilize Lemmy to view, post, and comment without ever voting if you don't want to.

As far as I'm aware, the votes don't really matter, anyway. Lemmy doesn't seem to use karma the way that Reddit does. i.e. I've never seen a post removed because the user didn't have enough karma, etc.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The real question is why do we even need upvotes or down votes at all?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 1 hour ago

It's the main metric by which you determine what posts are popular.

[–] K3can@lemmy.radio 0 points 2 hours ago

On other platforms, it's a mechanism to assign a sort of "social worth" to people and ideas, and to tailor an algorithm to drive engagement.

I think it exists on Lemmy purely to make it feel more like "Reddit but federated." Without the votes, this is just a normal message board. Lol

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There are communities on certain instances that have auto-moderators that take into account upvotes to ban/unban people.

Piefed also by default collapses any comment that has a negative vote. if the comment gets downvoted even further, it can even be shadowbanned by being hidden from anyone on Piefed. although you can change that or opt out, if you prefer to see every shitty take. Piefed also places bright warning icons next to the names of anyone with a bad rep. there's quite a lot of personal control over what you see if you use Piefed.

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[–] K3can@lemmy.radio 1 points 2 hours ago

Interesting! Not something I've encountered, but I suppose that's what makes the Fediverse special! We can all control how we want to interact with things.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I agree - I was just surprised to be confronted publicly by a user, for down voting a post. Not that I didn't want to be exposed, but that people actually could look it up

[–] K3can@lemmy.radio 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, 100% agree that it's a bit unhinged to actively call out people because they down-dooted something you posted.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I don't make it a habit to check, but it has been fun to check and call out in precisely two scenarios.

  • One user and I deep into a sub thread on a multiple day old post arguing about ettiquette here. Was weird to get multiple downvotes on those sorts of comments. They were using their "abandoned" alts.

  • Another thread where I had repeatedly asked someone to share the source for their claim despite them insisting that I just wasn't googling right. I offered them to edit literally every comment (multiple thousand) on this account to sing their praises. Downvoted with no response.

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If you want to maintain some sort of privacy when voting on any platform in the Fediverse:
Create an alt account, do not make any posts/comments with it, only use it for voting.

Otherwise we would need an instance that generates a bunch of voting accounts. Then, when you vote on something, the instance randomly assigns that vote to one of their voting accounts and sends out that vote information to other instances. Then only the Admins of your home instance would be able to view your voting history.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 hours ago

also don't do this because fuck that

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (5 children)

It's to guard against bot accounts. I'd much rather have that instead of the clearly manipulated comment sections on Reddit. The pro-israel posting and down voting went away almost overnight when we got broader access and a few mods got called out about it. Go look at a comment section about it that hits all on Reddit, there's clearly artificial voting going on.

It's still not that hard to mess around but I'll take what I can get, and I guess it does keep the racists away, even if it's sometimes a false positive like in your case.

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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It's pretty helpful sometimes when you can see who is brigading and where the majority of downvotes come from. Allows communities to better police themselves.

[–] Andy_R@feddit.uk 90 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (10 children)

The Fediverse is open, everything you do on here is fully public.

It's why I prefer it over reddit, where who knows what really happens with all the vote manipulation and brigading.

To answer your question, it is all listed alongside upvotes on the posts if using mbin.

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[–] presoak@lazysoci.al 1 points 5 hours ago

Because ignorance is strength

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