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We currently pay something in the range of 250€ a month for after school care of our 2 kids, including lunch; full kindergarten care for both was around 500€ before in Germany.
Funny thing though: birthrates here are dropping even worse than in the US...
Are you serious?
This shithole country I live in. We have funds to create a gestopo and ice camps here in the US and there's no real support for new parents.
Comical that Republicans constantly bitch about people not getting married or having kids, then make sure there's no way they can support said kids. Fucking dimwits
US always wants to force women to stay home. What shithole doesn't have parental leave?
In many municipalities child care is even completely free of charge.
(Only for low-income families where I live.)
From society's standpoint it is also a good idea to let pedagogues mentor young kids and give them social interaction with same age peers. Also best way for foreign kids to learn the German language and customs, reduces possible later social problems.
There's also a lot of stupid laws that prevent like a small daycare from operating in like a suburb area. Certain types of smaller businesses should be exempt from zoning and they're all things that are super expensive.
It’s almost self-reinforcing poverty. You can have one person stay home and take care of the kid(s) and lose the income, or you can give what amounts to an entire year’s wages to the daycare to take care of the kid while you work full time. Some may be able to squeeze some part time work in if they’re lucky enough to find a job that doesn’t try to make them work shifts outside of daycare hours. Day care is raising your kids for you, they start off life without you around much.
Oh good grief. Okay so if childcare should be no more than 7 percent then if you pay 1200 per month you should make $200k. This doesn’t mean that if you have two kids and pay $2400 per month you need to make $400k. That math ain’t mathing. Not everything else goes up.
It kinda does.
Daycare in my area was $2500 for two kids (with a discount). That's just daycare. This ain't even a fancy ass daycare, nor is this a fancy city. Everything is just that fucking expensive now.
Man, I think that's the going rate for one kid in my area (DC suburb).
Question:
Is the plan to make it so only very rich and poor people have kids?
The reasoning behind my question is that rich people are generally selfish and thus will vote in a selfish way. And poor people can usually be easily controlled or could be discounted/removed from the voting arena.
I realise I'm generalising here.
But the reasoning is there, if they 'wipe out' the generation of people who usually vote against then that helps, right? Or am I being too fantastical and conspiracy theorist?
The plan is to pillage the wealth of the local population via insane asset prices and extreme rentierism around essentials such as housing and then when the amounts being returned by the pillaging and exploitation start to slow down due to the impact from decades of lower birthrates because of living in such a dystopia, importing young adults from countries with higher birth rates - i.e. immigrants - and have far-right political forces funded by the very people pillaging the country loudly blame said immigrants for the feeling of life getting worse and even pain that most people feel as consequence of the pillaging of the country.
Certainly this is what I've seen in multiple countries in Europe.
Generally declining birthrates and specifically the disappearance of the middle class are almost inevitable in late-stage capitalism (the stage where outward expansion is complete, so capitalists must turn their gaze inward and increase exploitation at home). Although, let's be clear, everyone except the capitalist loses in this scenario, and it will hurt people who are currently in poverty much harder than it will the middle class who are only beginning to drown.
But there isn't some conspiracy making this happen. It is only the machinery of the system that makes true the statement, "If I don't, someone else will."
I'm sure many of the educated oligarchs know that this is how the system works. It's why they're all building bunkers. It doesn't need a shadowy cabal in a smoky room, though. Profit inventivizes all.
The plan is dead for a long time now. Capitalism only works if the working poor population gets renewed. They lost track of the plot and focused too much on wealth growth. Now we are in the late stage of capitalism. The stage where it no longer works but they'll pretend it does until it collapses under their feet.
That stage might take decades though, most of us won't enjoy what comes next.
Capitalism has never been a plan, it's a cancer
The plan is to move all the money to the top 0.1%. Low birthrate is just a side effect of that. The plan was always to fill in the gaps in workforce with illegal immigrants who are cheaper and easier to steal money from. Currently I'm not sure what the plan is. Robots? Abandon manufacturing altogether?
Society has become outright hostile to parents. Cost is a major reason, but far from the only one.
The future does not look too promising.
Yes.
You can't let them explore on their own to build independence and confidence without CPS being called on you.
When kids misbehave in public, all the boomers get their panties in a wad. My parents get flustered when the grandkids get loud playing together in a back bedroom.
Getting kids launched well in life, with some chance of adult prosperity, requires thousands and thousands of dollars in private clubs/ competitions/ tutoring/ schools/ etc - the highly competitive nature of the US economy has reached down into elementary aged children at this point. Where I live, people even pay for tutoring to get their children into GT programs.
It doesn't help that the state of schooling and instruction here has grown abysmal, largely non-functional.
Kids, on average, aren't learning shit here.
While "preparing for" and entering the economy of today and tomorrow. Things are grim.
I am actually really angry that in the aftermath of Covid, and all the ground that children lost, that we did not overhaul schools to be year-round like they are in Asia. Kids lost whole years of education with the endless school closures!! Why the fuck didn't we make it up with the summers?! Why did we just go back to the same shitty broken system?!
Financial demands on parents have increased, but so have non-financial demands.
Unless you have a lot of support from extended family (which also means that you live near them), I really don't see how parents do it.