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[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I was just considering getting my son into the scouts and this encourages me.

[–] antimongo@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think your local offerings can be a big factor. I grew up in scouts, loved my experience for the most part.

But talking with other people about their experiences can be a mixed bag. Each troop has its own priorities, the national Scouting organization gives troops a lot of flexibility on how they want to run their operation.

My troop, for example, was huge on outdoor activities. We had monthly camping trips, sometimes more than one a month. We did participate in organized “scouting events” as well with other troops, but that was sort of secondary.

Other troops are big on “scouting achievements” like merit badges, “scouting societies” like Order of the Arrow, medals and honors kinda thing, I felt like that would be a bit of a drag. But to each their own.

[–] 42Firehawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

Definitely varies on area and by troop. Mine was camping or outdoors twice a month at minimum, and pushed to be very active in all the things possible to immerse scouts in scouting. It really felt like the ideal way for the program to be done.

The biggest downside was that drive to do more in proper scout led meant 80% of outings were messy figure out backpacking trip ideas.

Definitely helped shape my opinions on scouting as a trans woman who was barely able to stay in the program after coming out in time with the policy change.

Some troops are also very hostile to being accepting, and do their best to ward off any gay or possibly gay youth in the first place. So if that's a concern it is still relevant.

[–] firelight@startrek.website -5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

I seriously feel bad for your son if this is what causes you to force it upon him.

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

Better be careful talking in this thread will turn you trans.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Nobody is forcing anything he is going to do it if he wants to.

[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

What a small-balls thing to say.

The horror of acceptance for others. Oh my god, please make it stop. /s

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I definitely learned some pretty good skills in it, so I would personally recommend, though biased.

Learned first aid, fire starting, safe wood chopping, some decent enough regional wilderness survival skills, and had a good amount of fun along the way. Also learned gun safety in a very important meeting we had that probably should have been either a once every year meeting.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh dear firearm training, even at the most basic of levels is so under appreciated.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It really is.

As someone that went through this program, I can't stress enough that the takeaways here go far beyond marksmanship; the program makes sure of it. Because of merely attempting to get the Riflery merit badge I have a profound respect and safety awareness for guns, and all I used was a .22 bolt-action rimfire, which is about as basic as it gets. At the same time I'm aware that being halfway good at maintaining and using one are skills that must be cultivated and are not easy to do nor intutive. If I had to use a firearm now, I know that I'd have to use it at close range to be any good.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And unlike most americans (according to statistics) know that you should unload the firearm before cleaning, storage, or hiding in an oven. Its the main difference between the states and nations that require a firearms license. Even one day of training before letting people buy a firearm drastically changes outcomes.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Education is key in firearm safety.

Nobody scares me more at the range than adults who rent a gun who clearly have no experience. They're often simultaneously confident and dangerous. Kids at the range are afraid of getting in trouble so listen to people telling them how to be safe, but adults are the fucking worst.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

Here in Canada we have that very issue with police at the range (my range had to ban them in groups). The mix of overconfidence and need to show off while having less safety training then regular people is a deadly recipe.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

vet the troop carefully, but yeah, it's a good organization.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

And listen to your kid if they say it's not what it looks like. My troop looked totally fine if you asked the Scoutmaster. It turns out it was just his kid and his kid's best friends who were all assholes. I got beaten up at least once, and eventually got kicked out because I pulled my knife on the Scoutmaster's kid, because he had pulled his knife first, and literally backed me up against a cliff with it. Dude was a psycho and eventually joined the Army during the big 2009 push (what a shock).

Mom insisted I go every week, it's not that bad, etc, and then literally had the stones to tell me "you should've said something" when I got thrown out.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

yeah, i was in a troop with an awesome scoutmaster. who died. the next scoutmaster was okay but he moved. the one after that was an Uncle Touchy that i managed to avoid. my parents refused believe me when i told them there was something going on but they like burying their heads in the sand (they cultists).

[–] LumberjackRanger@leminal.space 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Eagle Scout here. These asshat politicians need to keep their hands off scouting. It's an awesome organization that gets kids off the screens and teaches them a bunch of cool, outdoorsy skills. Everybody should be encouraged to participate. Our society needs some fresh air.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Almost made Eagle Scout here. Would absolutely encourage people to join*. There is almost no other organization where you can learn cooking, first aid, environmental science, and many other cool and useful skills that I can think of. At least not for teens. There are definitely a good amount of things I learned that I have kept with me, even if I have never had to use them, especially a very important meeting we had on gun safety.

*obviously vet the troop. You absolutely don't want to join a troop with homophobes if you or your child are not straight or are trans or whatever.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Re: vet the troop.

I had a very lucky experience in that my troop was about as secular as it gets, meeting at a local public school without any external financial support at all. There was no church involved; the parents funded everything and provided transportation and were our chaperones. The only mention of "reverence" was in the Scout Oath, and there were never any group prayers or other such things.

We also didn't wear uniforms on outings, steering clear of any pro-military optics.

My point being: if you find yourself looking for a program that is more on the side of skill-building, outdoorsy stuff, and education, there are troops out there that may fit the bill.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The troop I was in was like that as well, minus the uniforms. Almost always had to have on either a uniform or troop shirt at outings so we could be identified in case something went wrong. Closest we had to church related stuff was how our troop was grateful enough to be able to hold meetings in a nearby church, a quick mention of it in Eagle Scout court of honor ceremony, and the occasional camp out "there's service happening for anybody who wants to attend" type of thing.

As for funding, we definitely had the usual fall popcorn sales and then we usually did a bake sale early Spring for funding. Hated the bake sale because it was always at a small rest stop shop that was almost always cold. No external support outside of whoever popcorn sales were done through.

[–] lemmysquid459@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eagle scout here as well. I second this. When I was in scouting it was still boy scouts and I was always a bit bothered by the exclusions. So happy to see that the organization is now inclusive and standing by their beliefs.

Now just to get religion out of scouting...

[–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Another Eagle jumping in. It is so clear these clowns know nothing of what scouting is about.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

They've basically violated every single last part of the oath. They're 100% at-odds with the entire program as far as I can tell.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

These clowns know that scouting promotes inclusiveness and they hate that.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 217 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I got a lot of badges when I was a scout. Didn't have to use my penis for any of them.

Your troop didnt teach you how to lash a table together using just your penis? Maybe that was just for Order of the Arrow...

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 102 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

.... wait, what? Next are you gonna tell me that the "cocksucking" badge I got from that one scoutmaster is fake?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

Maybe.

Come over to this hotel room. Show me what you learned, and I'll assess your skills. Then I can tell you if it was fake.

[–] talentedkiwi@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago

They said they didn't have to use THEIR penis... (I'm so sorry)

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not even the knot tying badge? I was duped!

/s

[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Hah, as a furry, that one has implications. :3

-- Frost

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Not even a furry, or even non-hetero, and it has implications

[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I bet we're thinking of completely different implications, which is pretty hilarious!

('knot' is furry terminology (possibly outside furry too, it might be what the scientists call it, but it probably doesn't come up nearly as much in other contexts) for... does lemmy not have inline spoilers?)

knots explanation, furry lewd stuff talk...the bulbous bit that wolves like me (and other canids) apparently have at the base of their dick, which swells up to lock them in place during sex. And you can probably guess what "tying" would be, heh. Usually I hear it called "knotting" though.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Yep. I was thinking of bondage

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 113 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Doesn't the SecDef have more important things to do right now? Like fight a war no one but his boss wanted?

[–] firelight@startrek.website 2 points 6 hours ago

His job is to use the culture war to distract from the class war.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You'd think so, but I'm sure they have some weird fantasy of transforming the Boy Scouts into the MAGA Youth, and guiding them from scouts, directly into the military's meat grinder.

The most dangerous demographic group for any Dictatorship are Military Age Males. If you don't take control of them, they can be turned into an army against you.

So it's best to filter them early, identify those who will be on your side, and can be properly educated as fuel for the government, and those who look like they could be trouble down the line, can be used as cannon fodder.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Exactly, they'd always counted on them serving as that.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago

Hey! Whoa! That's not true.....

.......everyone implicated in the Epstein files wanted this war.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Ah, the SecDef doesn't actually fight a war. He just supports starting one. And then like all richwhitemen in the USA have done, let a whole bunch of impressionable young people do the fighting and dying for him.

Ask how I know!

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

BTW if you're looking to order girl scout cookies consider ordering some from this list of Trans and non-binary scouts: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/2026-trans-girl-scouts-to-order-cookies

This person makes a list every year

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Idk man. I support trans kids but I don't want to show favoritism. Why is there a list of transkids? Honest question I don't understand. dont parents sell at work and in front of stores and stuff? Would this alienate them from their peers somehow?

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 hours ago

Why is there a list of transkids?

Yeah, this person's heart is in the right place but I dunno if we should be encouraging making lists of state-persecuted minorities right now.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 2 points 22 hours ago

Erin in the Morning is a reputable source, too. That blog has been sharing trans girl scout cookies for years.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Modern scouts sell both in person and online

I'm not sure how it would alienate them. Being different is already alienating.

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[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

As an Eagle Scout, good. They realize that they teach generations of young people how to be good people and stand up when the time calls them to stand up? Do they think we'll stay quiet if they give into fascists?

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