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i used cinnamon in 2016 (worst time i think), then i briefly used gnome in '23. i've been using kde since '25 and i regret i have no desire to use anything else anymore.
want a tiling wm? - just install a plugin and customize kde within 5 minutes
want to build a mediabox with a simple ui for use with a remote on a tv? - just adjust the sizes and find one of a million widgets!
do you want the ms win98 look? - it's 3 clicks away!
i am sure other DE's may be better for my specific usecases. but the flexibility of kde gives me good enough results within a familiar environment. i can change my whole computer experience in a few clicks and revert whenever on the same de!
Khe Khing Kabout KDE Kis Kits Kobsession Kwith Kits Knaming Kheme.
They dropped that for new programs years ago.
At least I know what your least favorite fighting game franchise is.
Kreet Kriter? Kuper Kmash Kros? Gnortal Gnombat?
That's a pretty dumb reason, but that's what's been putting me off for so long. Oh well, I'm a konvert now...
Well, tiling window managers exist.
I'm still stuck on i3 and sway. I hear there's a version of KDE that is tiling...? But I haven't found anything definitive on that.
still stuck on i3 and sway
That's an odd statement. I'd place i3 and Sway deeper down the rabbit hole, being build-your-own[^1] as opposed to packaged deals like KDE.
[^1]: in the sense of building a configuration - not in the sense of compiling code.
Iβd place i3 and Sway deeper down the rabbit hole ...
I mean they are, but my mind and fingers have been so twisted by vim that I can't really interact with floating wms without feeling honestly pretty intense discomfort. I see people having fun with their cool Plasmas etc and I wish I could make the leap, but every time I try I just bristle at all the mouse use. The lack of control makes me feel like I'm trying to use a computer while wearing oven mittens.
My point is - why go backward? You already have your Sway[^1] based setup, configured just the way you like it, with the ability to switch various components in and out. What does a monolithic[^2] environment like KDE have to offer you?
[^1]: Assuming it's Sway and not i3 because I assume you have already switched to Wayland. You switched to Wayland, right? You need to switch to Wayland. Why are you not switching to Wayland?
[^2]:, Yes, you can tweak KDE, but since all the various parts were created to fit together switching one will always result in awkward UX.
Kwin supports tiling, although nothing stops you from replacing it with i3.
I've heard this which made me assume it was like an option I can just enable, but every search has only come up with some baroque scripting or configuration guides, which seems like a lot more work than just using an actual tiling window manager.
E: Oh I get it now, you just install Krohnkite. This is a bit of an improvement, I will admit.
Yes, scripts like that exist (or replacing kwin). I don't do it anymore, so I didn't have recommendations, but may check this one mentioned.
I would love to give GNOME an honest try, but there are so many ways in which it feels like it's actively working against me. In KDE I can for example create as many panels as I want on as many monitors as I want. On GNOME? There's an extension to put the panel on another monitor, but then you can't use the dock. I guess the GNOME developers don't use multiple monitors? I mean you can't even set different wallpapers on different monitors without a third party application.
As for Niri, Hyprland and all that... Yeah, they're cool, but I'm too old nowadays. I just want shit to work, even though I do miss some of the functions that exist e.g. on Hyprland that doesn't exist in KDE. But on the other hand, the developer of Hyprland is an asshole, so I wouldn't really want to promote or use the project anyway.
to me, gnome seems to be just bad ui design for people with stockholm syndrome about it.
I just install 1980s pong OS. Humans should have stopped at this, So much is simplit times for us yes.
Cinnamon > KDE
I'm waiting for Cosmic to mature
It has so many great ideas, all it needs is time and polish.
niri forever
Cinnamon is my favorite. KDE is #2. Not crazy about Gnome or Cosmic.
"Am I interested in other DEs?" and "Will I install them?" are two different questions though. Yeah, I had fun running i3 years back, but i3 isn't the new hotness anymore, and there's not a snowball's chance in hell of me feeling like I have the time to learn and configure another WM. Absent my suddenly striking it rich and having entirely too much free time, I sincerely doubt there will come another time where I feel like I have that sort of time and nothing I'd rather use it for than such a mundane and endless task.
Just switch to sway. As far as I know, the config should be compatible (if you swap the complex utils for Wayland ones). But I haven't tried it (I do use river and really like it though, so I do recommend sway).
Edit: see this:https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki/i3-Migration-Guide
We only need xfce, let's delete the others
I still miss Windowmaker. :(
the first DE I used on Linux was cinnamon and I was like βwow, this is great, everything makes sense to me out of the boxβ
And then I tried Gnome and was incredibly put off by it, like βwhy the hell is this over here, this layout is strange to me. Why are all these unconventional features on by default, this is very annoying.β
And then I tried KDE and I was like βwow, this is great and everything makes sense to me out of the box, also thereβs all these features and options, I donβt know what they do, but i donβt have to interact with them if I donβt want to.β
Desktop environment, and OS in general is just something you eventually find one you like, and there's no need to change. It's GNOME for me, it just works in a way that doesn't get on my way and that's all it needs to be
I love Gnome. People love to hate it, but it's workflow is SO good.
I think people just get annoyed that they can't force it to be whatever they want it to be. Which is fine, that's why other options exist!
But if you really go to the content-focused, workspace + keyboard shortcut flow Gnome is incredibly efficient, consistent, and stable.
Unpopular opinion #2: I love libadwaita and GTK4. Basically, I enjoy when devs are opinionated about things and build what they want to see in the world.
The adaptive part of libadwaita is really exciting for different form factors!
Plasma is great. But it's missing an important feature. Apps, such as backup or sync, cannot navigate to network shares, to use as a backup target. Dolphin sees the shares ok, but its important to backup. Windows lets apps select network targets. Plasma should too.
Dolphin shows you places that are not in your file system, such as network shares or your phoneβs media directory. Those are fake files, illusions of Satan, temptations designed to stray you from the path of God. Avoid anything that is not opened with open and not read with read system calls, for doing so is a sin before eyes of God (fopen and fread are permitted). Mount your network shares using sudo mount -t cifs.