at least some of this has to be because people use other search engines
Google search doesn't actually return useful material anymore
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
at least some of this has to be because people use other search engines
Google search doesn't actually return useful material anymore
I tried kagi a while back and liked it so much I subscribe now. Google messed up the one thing they ever did right.
Search engines are pretty much redundant because they don’t return what we are looking for.
They cooked themselves.
But what if what your are looking for is AI generated articles that don't provide any trustworthy answers or top 10 lists of products that their manufacturers paid the site to figure on the list? Google is still the best for that.
Well when you put it that way…..
If you have a technical problem and enter "reddit" in you search often you find help. But this is so stupid.
I use DDG and SearXNG several times per day. It's better at finding information in StackOverflow and Reddit threads than directly searching in those sites and it's the only way I know how to actively seek out websites I haven't been referred to by anyone.
Yup,i use perplexity as my first port of call for most searches. Not because it’s good - it’s not, I’d estimate it’s wrong around 80%of the time - but because it’s still better than the alternatives
Who uses Google in this day and age? They haven't had good results for a decade or so.
Literally everyone, do people ever leave the Lemmy/reddit bubble?
yeah, as long as it's the browser default, huge swaths of the public will use it.
Steal it. Wrap it up. Give it away. The perfect crime by google.
Most of the time i use search engines to get to wikipedia. Now i have to add "wiki" to most of my queries because wikipedia wont even show up on the first page.
Just add Wikipedia to your search bar
Use the DDG bang :
!w <your-search-here>There are bangs for "image search" (!im), "github search" (!gh), "search PubMed" (!pm)
You cannot live without this
Why would I need any of that if I can bang the search bar of my browser instead, and it takes me straight to search on Wikipedia or any other site I want without waiting for DDG to add that site?
Relieved to find this response below the others. Why TF would you search for a site i) whose URL you know? ii) waste space on your browser by adding the website as a search bar on your browser's menu bar? How much time do people anticipate they'll save by avoiding typing Wikipedia.org into the address field?
Most (if not all) modern browsers support multiple search engines which are configurable and selectable from a dropdown in the omnibar. There's no need to remember dozens of shortcuts or add a dedicated toolbar anymore.
That's not what I mean. I have a keyword like ‘wik’ set to take me to Wikipedia's search, and if I type ‘wik black pus’, i get the page for that term.
I also have an extension that shows a popup with buttons for different search engines whenever I select text on a page, and I have a similar thing on the phone for text shared from any app. Each of these methods has about twenty-seven sites configured in it. Considering that I look up things on these sites easily a dozen times a day, it's ridiculous to say that this doesn't save me time over opening each site.

You can completely skip DDG's systems by just using your search bar though.
I know I speak for everyone on Lemmy that they prefer entering their question into Grok.
Grok told me that white people are being erased when I asked for a recipe for pancakes.
We can probably live without Bing
I want them all to exist, it gives searXNG more hits to eliminate ads.
searXNG, find bob's bugers
What do they all agree on? Give it back to the user.
...why don’t you just go to Wikipedia to begin with? I’m honestly asking. URLs still exist.
Wikipedias search kinda sucked 15 years ago. So i never bothered to try it again since then tbh
It seems significantly better now. A lot of topics, I just go straight to Wikipedia now.
If you add '!w' to the end of your word in the address bar it takes you directly to wikipedia.
For example: buffalo buffalo buffalo !w
Only if you are a good netizen and using DDG ;)
Also, it works at the start too: "!w buffalo buffalo"
Fewer people using Google
No, fewer people getting past the AI summary
Given the state of a lot of the summaries I've seen lately, that is scary.
Holdup, are people not skipping the AI summaries entirely because the info is fucking shit?
You forget we are in an echo chamber here. Most people not only read the AI summaries, they believe them. Just the other day I saw a normie ask ChatGPT to add up some numbers for them, instead of using a calculator. That's how entrenched AI has become in their day-to-day. They don't have to think any more. Thinking is hard. And that's how Google is able to dominate the web. Steal the data and serve it up as slop that's good enough for the everyday Joe.
Is that what this is saying? I wasn't sure. The article should state that explicitly, and not assume that the reader concludes that.
I think the issue there is the data doesn't tell anyone "why", it only tells "what".
Hard to imagine usage of Google suddenly falling by 22%, much less 60%.
Good news, though, is if Google stops bringing in traffic to sites, they'll block its bots, so both search and Gemini will become even worse, possibly turning people away.