You Should Know

We aren't the ones deciding to go to war and cause a generation of men to have their psychological well-being put through a wood chipper. We don't produce the propaganda that make men willing. We don't make poverty rampant so men get desperate enough to enlist.

It doesn't matter if we learn, plenty of us already know and it doesn't change anything. People like Trump, like Putin, like Netanyahoo, don't care about us or whoever ends up a victim of their ambitions. Putin and Netanyahoo know what their troops do and don't give a fuck, they might even use it to their advantage.

The problem isn't learning from the past, it's that psychopaths are good at gaining power. They know and simply don't care. If voters weren't such ignorant imbeciles, maybe they wouldn't vote for ppl like Trump, but they are, so here we are. If customers weren't such ignorant, weak willed cowards incapable of not buying the new toys, we wouldn't fund the people stealing all the property and making us poorer every generation. We are all victims of the decision-making prowess of the average voter, the average consumer.

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/llmlp/MyLaiHearings/MyLaiHearings.pdf

Thank you for sharing, I had only heard of it tangentially until a Mr. Beat video on the Vietnam War. There's a lot of fictional media in that time frame that references atrocities like this in that conflict, beyond just Apocalypse Now.

https://youtu.be/LwQRfckSANI

The only reason why my Lai is known today is because one helicopter pilot had a conscience and ordered his door gunner to open fire on their own troops if they were to approach another group of Vietnamese civilians that he decided to protect

Had he not, likely nobody would have known what happened

It is important to know this because when the military is turned on you, you should know they’ll obey. If you think there are enough that would so no, you’re wrong.

| Sentence | Life imprisonment; commuted to three years' house arrest by President Richard Nixon |

Fucking hell Nixon …

“Protect the children and women” Except from my murderous rapist soldiers apparently.

Welcome to war

US soldiers also raped thousands of French women during WW2.

them vets are the main foment vector for what we now know as the white supremacy movement. not that the sentiment wasn't prevalent, but it was disjointed groups, churches, cults, klan, militias, prison gangs, etc., each pushing their own thing with only limited local reach.

the influx of large swaths of radicalized and trained MAMs was the igniter. all those power squabbling groups started coming together under one banner and they had a new tool - computers.

early on, they realized you can reach a whole lotta more folks with the new tech than the usual zines and the like. so they formed armored truck robbing gangs, and used the proceeds to buy home computers for establishing a network of BBS all over the country, pushing their shit to previously unreachable corners. I mean, if that's not a michael mann movie, I don't know what is...

for more, kathleen belew - bring the war home, available at anne's site or wherever you pirate your shit.

The issue here is humans. In large groups humans do terrible things. Usually in small group interactions they are pretty decent. It's very odd. But probably the result of evolution. Other branches of "human" that didn't act this way were probably wiped out by those that did.

This is bad. What Japan did to China was worse.

That's just one village.

"According to the Information Bureau of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of South Vietnam (PRG), a shadow government formed by North Vietnam in 1969, between April 1968 and the end of 1970 American ground troops killed about 6,500 civilians in the course of twenty-one operations either on their own or alongside their allies. "

"Tiger Force, a reconnaissance unit of the 101st Airborne Division, probably murdered hundreds of civilians during a 6-month period in 1967"

and from bombing:

"Estimates for the number of North Vietnamese civilian deaths resulting from U.S. bombing range from 30,000 to 65,000.[35][4] Higher estimates place the number of civilian deaths caused by American bombing of North Vietnam in Operation Rolling Thunder at 182,000.[36] American bombing in Cambodia is estimated to have killed between 30,000 and 150,000 civilians and combatants."

Edit: I haven't done extensive research and as was pointed out the actual numbers might be much higher, and my figures don't include deaths and damage from Agent Orange chemicals

after learning of the massacre, he wrote in his memoir that it was "the conscious massacre of defenseless babies, children, mothers, and old men in a kind of diabolical slow-motion nightmare that went on for the better part of a day, with a cold-blooded break for lunch".[

yo what the fuck

I suppose many of the perpetrators who were there are still alive today. I wonder if they sleep soundly in bed at night.

War. What is it good for. Absolutely nothing.

Other than fulfilling the desires of sociopaths under the guise of being a patriot

it's sad when I don't even know which massacre is being discussed, or even which theater of war or era - there are just too many examples

YSalsoK that Colin Powell was instrumental the attempt to cover up My Lai.

Rule 2.